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Subject: Re: (moderation) rolf is suspended--thanks for your understanding

Author: Marcos Christensen

Date: 08:12:07 07/01/00

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On June 30, 2000 at 15:18:56, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On June 30, 2000 at 14:34:59, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>
>>On June 29, 2000 at 22:59:30, Will Singleton wrote:
>>
>>>On June 29, 2000 at 20:40:53, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 29, 2000 at 19:19:14, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 29, 2000 at 17:30:24, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>We (the moderators) have been getting a lot of user feedback regarding Hans
>>>>>>Gerber. This afternoon, we finally decided to (temporarily) suspend him. The
>>>>>>process took so long because of disagreements between moderators, his reluctance
>>>>>>to identify himself, etc. I apologize for the "delayed reaction" and hope that
>>>>>>our action appropriately addresses everybody's complaints.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>Just some questions and observations:
>>>>>a) How much post are "a lot of feedback"?
>>>>>b) do you count as counter-feedback the post that does not ask you nothing
>>>>>against Hans Geber or whatever he could be?
>>>>>c) and by the way, why are you stopping thread short of completion as if in them
>>>>>we were telling dirty jokes?
>>>>>d) which is the proof and not the suspiction that Gerber is Tueschen? I do not
>>>>>want to be heavy, but some paranoids posts has been posted in the past -I
>>>>>myself, I have commited that sin- trying to dicover Chris Wittintong ego behind
>>>>>almost any new poster that happened to write so well or so sharp as Chris.
>>>>>e) I thought witch-hunting was out of fashion.
>>>>>f) Even if Gerber is a new Tueschen incarnation, so what? Did he kill somebody?
>>>>>OK, some people here does not like his post or the kind of post pertainning to
>>>>>this kind of real poster or supposed poster called Tueschen, but then what. I
>>>>>did not know a member was compelled to read everything.
>>>>>g) I am in this club almost from the beginning and so I know well about wars and
>>>>>threads and again I wonder, so what? This is not a chapel where kids sing
>>>>>Chritmas songs, this a club where grown-up people gather and talks and if
>>>>>somebody cannot resist the style of Mr X, well, he can go, he can just not read
>>>>>Mr X, he can answer, he cand do what he please. What he should not do is this
>>>>>school-shy-boy behaviour of asking "fa" to come to the rescue.
>>>>>Fernando
>>>>
>>>>Sorry to take the wind out of your sails, Fernando, but I never said (nor
>>>>implied) that Hans is Rolf.
>>>>
>>>>Also, I know we are grown-ups here, but that doesn't mean we have to tolerate
>>>>crap. If I started posting gay kiddie porn on CCC, would you want me kicked out?
>>>>Or would you write long posts about how we are all adults and if we don't like
>>>>gay kiddie porn, we can just look the other way? IMO, it is weak to defend Hans
>>>>by putting the blame on everybody else.
>>>>
>>>>-Tom
>>>
>>>You got that right.  Dead on.
>>>
>>>Will
>>
>>He did not get that right. It is easy to seem winning a point just after
>>rejecting a parody of argument. The case of gay porno is one of that parodies,
>>not even a funny one. Besides, is a case of petitio principia to give as a
>>reason that posting was "crap" when precisely one of the things under debate is
>>the quality of the posts by hans. So the only thing that is really dead here is
>>you argumentative capacity as comentator of posters of somebody else.
>
>Posts containing personal attacks, [excessive] profanity, etc. should obviously
>be deleted. And it's easy to point to a reason for deleting them.
>
>Some posts about Deep Blue (and certain other subjects) should also be deleted.
>Superficially, they seem like legitimate posts. They don't contain personal
>attacks or whatever. But they can stir up more trouble and ill will than any
>amount of profanity. I suggest you consider this, too, when deciding whether or
>not a post is crap.
>
>-Tom

        Hi! Some people (scientists) belive that emotions are social
"constructos",i.e. it exists when 2 or more persons are in contact. If a deep
blue post causes ill to a group, perhaps the group is already diseased or, at
least the diseased is not only the poster. If some posts are a obvious troll why
answer? Why create this situation? What will happen now? Prohibit deep blue
posts? Witchunting? Inquisition? Should we elect, not moderators but
Torquemadas? Sorry, but the more I read computer chess things, more I like human
chess.
     With no intention of disrupt anything (and sorry about bad english), kind
regards
            Marcos





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