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Subject: Re: How make Fritz execute brute force search?

Author: Tom Kerrigan

Date: 17:45:42 07/26/00

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On July 26, 2000 at 19:26:03, leonid wrote:

>On July 26, 2000 at 18:42:19, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>
>>On July 26, 2000 at 18:22:47, leonid wrote:
>>
>>>On July 26, 2000 at 17:26:01, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 26, 2000 at 16:59:35, leonid wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 26, 2000 at 13:40:32, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On July 26, 2000 at 09:18:41, leonid wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How ask Fritz execute brute force search? I have Fritz 6 but if it is possible
>>>>>>>for some other version (even better DOS version), please say me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Recently I went to see Fritz nodes per second performance. Very impressive! Only
>>>>>>>maybe I am missing exact numbers. NPS tend to grow when search is done by brute
>>>>>>>force. This is why I try to find where Fritz numbers stays in real. But Fritz,
>>>>>>>in dispite of its performance, is not exactly open minded piece of software.
>>>>>>>Even its NPS I was able to see only through my Hiarcs 7.32 program.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>Leonid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My search is selective only because of null-move. I believe this is also the
>>>>>>case with Fritz.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>With null move on, my program searches 634k NPS. (BK, short searches)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On what hardware do you have 634k? I was very impressed with Fritz numbers only
>>>>>because they were between 220 and 320k on AMD 400Mhz. Your numbers are almost
>>>>>twice as fast.
>>>>
>>>>Pentium III/800. On a K-6/400 I figure I'd get 350k NPS or so. And that's for BK
>>>>positions; if I did a 5 second run of WAC, I'd get 780k NPS or so.
>>>>
>>>>-Tom
>>>
>>>If I am not missing there something, your numbers are better that the Fritz
>>>have. If you could someday check at what speed Fritz 6 goes on your hardware and
>>>send me the numbers (best with some concret position), it will be very nice. Or
>>>just put them here. If you numbers are so good, like I see them, you should be
>>>really proud to say them in public.
>>>
>>>Leonid.
>>
>>Sure, I'm proud of the NPS, but at the moment my evaluation function is so weak
>>that the program isn't competitive with even the stronger amateur programs.
>>
>>-Tom
>
>Tom, anyway, if you will find few moments, send me, at least, one concret
>position with Fritz 6 NPS and yours. It will say me what exactly are those
>numbers. Your sound to me too enigmatic, since they are so good. And if you have
>them right now, rest is nothing but question of time.
>
>Leonid.

I don't own Fritz 6, or any other chess program for that matter.

I write my own; why should I want anybody else's? ;)

-Tom



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