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Subject: Re: Strength of the engine in chess programs

Author: martin fierz

Date: 13:41:06 05/21/02

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On May 21, 2002 at 10:53:46, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On May 20, 2002 at 20:04:21, martin fierz wrote:
>
>>On May 20, 2002 at 10:15:44, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>
>>>Let me demonstrate a little thought experiment. If I would gauge (in 2002) the
>>>actually most known chess programs against say 1000 human chess players (first
>>>step) to get some insight into the Elo numbers, I would expect that the top
>>>programs would at best get Elo performances of 2200 - 2350, if I let the engines
>>
>>2200? you must be kidding! my rating is 2240 FIDE and even if i start all my
>>games against fritz with 1.h3 or some other (quite sensible) moves to take it
>>out of the book, i have no chance against it.
>>maybe someone here could experiment with a few top programs using no book
>>against other top programs.
>
>Give up.  This is an old argument that started on r.g.c.c a year or two ago.
>I challenged those saying that an engine was 2200 without a book to play mine
>in a match.  They wriggled and finagled, and _never_ accepted.  Because they
>_know_ this is nonsense, but it makes for a good "troll" or "diversion" for
>them..

give up what? i was saying what you were saying that chess engines are way
better (a few hundred elo...) than 2200 even without book. what was wrong with
that?

aloha
  martin



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