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Subject: Re: Strength of the engine in chess programs

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 16:20:14 05/21/02

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On May 21, 2002 at 10:34:34, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On May 20, 2002 at 18:14:30, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>>>Quotation from FIDE rules:
>>>>==========================
>>>>(a)
>>>>During play, the players are forbidden to make use of hand-written, printed or
>>>>otherwise recorded matter, or to analyse the game on another chessboard. They
>>>>are also forbidden to have recourse to the advice of a third party, whether
>>>>solicited or not.
>>>>[The only possible exception is that a player in a team competition may be
>>>>allowed to ask his captain "Should I accept his offer of a draw?" or "Does the
>>>>team need me to play for a win?". The captain or acting-captain must limit his
>>>>reply to an immediate "Yes", "No", or "It's up to you", without supplying his
>>>>answer after a detailed analysis of the position, and without making his answer
>>>>emphatic in any way. This captain, like all his players, is not allowed to
>>>>receive opinions, from any source, on the states of play of any games still in
>>>>progress] .
>>>>(b)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>OK..  Computers don't do any of that...
>>
>>Nothing of pre-recorded stuff? Mhmm. Or do you use a different wording?
>
>You want to stick to the rulebook, fine, remove all recorded chessknowledge by
>the human. It may be stored in the neurons in the brain and not on paper, but it
>says "or otherwise recorded matter", so get rid of it :)
>
>If you remove all pre-recorded knowledge in a program, you remove also the
>evaluation terms, piece square tables, all the search/extension/pruning rules
>that are based on chessknowledge, in fact even the chess rules must be deleted.
>You have no program if you choose to interpret the FIDE rules like that.
>
>-S.

You might be caught in black/white perceptions. Why this couldn't be discussed
and regulated? Otherwise we end arguing that the progrma and the machine were
made by man.

Rolf Tueschen



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