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Subject: Re: Strength of the engine in chess programs

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 13:34:04 05/23/02

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On May 23, 2002 at 14:20:09, Roy Eassa wrote:

>On May 23, 2002 at 13:41:05, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>Kramnik wants FRITZ (sic!) 6 months in advance and some more rules. The FRITZ
>>even Eduard Nemeth with Elo 2100 can beat almost at will? Strange.
>>
>
>
>I thought Eduard was quite a bit stronger than 2100.  Also, I'm pretty sure he
>canNOT beat Fritz 7 "almost at will".  He can win more games against it than
>might be predicted by his rating, and far more than most humans can, but I think
>he would be the first to tell you that he loses a lot of games against it too.


Roy, that's true. Two points.

1. Do you believe that Kasparov would lose a game against Fritz at all? I mean
not in a match or in public for some PR, there even POCKET Fritz drew with Leko.
I mean in real. And no Blitz or fast controls. Although Eddie wins 5, 10, 20, 30
minutes games. I have seen about 100 games in total.

2. If Fritz and Junior are presented as 2700 machines a little hot air might be
allowed in my position too, only into the opposite direction to inspire
thinking. It's not so funny if here except Dr. Hyatt nobody showed interest in
my thought experiment with the 5 human GM in a group who trained on the "new"
chess directly designed for computers. In that case only I believe the computers
fall down to 2200-2350. Instead everybody is happy to declare that I must be
wrong with such numbers. BTW I must read the old posts you have written about
the topic before my time. The offline readers are not yet very comfortable,
alas.

Rolf Tueschen



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