Author: José Carlos
Date: 06:20:42 05/24/02
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On May 24, 2002 at 00:38:52, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On May 23, 2002 at 18:00:04, José Carlos wrote: > >> I'll try to make my point again. My english is also not very good, and I'd >>prefer to discuss in spanish, but since a spanish-german debate would not be >>very useful, I'll try to say it in english. >> If I understand you right (correct me if I'm wrong) you try to find a solution >>for the actual situation of FIDE refusing computers in official tournaments. And >>you say (I'm not informed about this) that FIDE rejects programs because they >>say they cheat "reading" books. >> Now, it is a very important point for the discussion whether you agree with >>FIDE or not. If you agree, then I'll try to exaplain why I think they're wrong. >>If you don't, then we should try to find a way to make them understand. >> >> José C. > > >This is not the current state of affairs. Years ago FIDE passed a resolution >allowing computers to play. The problem was that the entry fee was ridiculous >for anybody but (say) an IBM. $10,000 is the figure I remember to allow a >computer to play for one year in FIDE events, although the event organizers >had the right to say "no" still. I don't know whether this rule is still in >force or not. > >Computers have not been excluded because they "cheat". The problems with >computers in human events are well-known: > >1. noise. The machine is not quiet, programs like to beep, keyboards click, >fans whirr, power supplies hum, crowds gather around the monitor (which whines) >to see the output, etc. As a result a separate room is usually needed to move >the computer noise out of the main playing hall. > >2. rules such as the USCF rule that says any player may, prior to the first >round, notify the TD that they do not want to be paired against the computer. >This causes pairing problems in later rounds and also skews the final tournament >results badly. I could write volumes about this as I was right in the middle >of such an event with Cray Blitz in 1981. More if you want. > >3. computers (in the old days when this was an issue) required phone lines >to communicate with the actual machine playing chess (IE a Cray for us). > >4. there are always "anti-computer" people present at events. They complain, >groan, accuse, etc, making the TD's life miserable. There was once a USCF >group that called themselves "Citizens against Computers". > >It doesn't take much for a TD/organizer to say "no way". It happened all over >the US in the 1980's... I see. I wasn't aware of all of that, but seems quite logical. And I, myself, have problems accepting a computer playing a tournament I play in! However, it seems that Rolf thinks the "book cheating" is the problem. At least, I understand that from his words. Of course, that "book cheating" is nonsense. José C.
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