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Subject: Re: interesting move by Pharaon

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 21:24:12 06/06/02

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On June 06, 2002 at 20:41:42, Jon Dart wrote:

>This is a recent test game Arasan vs. Pharaon:
>
>[Event "?"]
>[Site "-"]
>[Date "2002.06.05"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Arasan 6.0"]
>[Black "Pharaon 2.62"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[ECO "B33"]
>[TimeControl "1200+0"]
>
>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 e6 5. Nc3 Nf6 6. Ndb5 d6
>7. Bf4 e5 8. Bg5 a6 9. Na3 b5 10. Nd5 Be7 11. Bxf6 Bxf6 12. c3 O-O
>13. Nc2 Bg5 14. a4 bxa4 15. Rxa4 a5 16. Bc4 Rb8 17. b3 Kh8 18. O-O f5
>19. exf5 Bxf5 20. Nce3 Bg6 21. Qg4 Rb7 22. Kh1 Rbf7 23. f3 Rb7
>24. Rfa1 Rb8 25. Qe6 e4 26. fxe4 Ne5 27. Rxa5 Bxe3 28. Nxe3 Bf7
>29. Qh3 Nxc4 30. Nxc4 Bxc4 31. Rh5 Bg8 32. b4 Qe8 33. e5 Rb5 34. Qh4
>Rxe5 35. Rxe5 Qxe5 36. Qe1 Ra8 37. Rc1 Qxe1+ 38. Rxe1 Ra3 39. Rc1 Bd5
>40. Kg1 Ra2 41. Rd1 Rxg2+ 42. Kf1 Bb3 43. Kxg2 Bxd1 44. b5 Ba4 45. b6
>Bc6+ 46. Kg3 Kg8 47. Kf4 Kf7 48. c4 Ke6 49. Ke3 Bb7 50. Kd4 Kd7
>51. Kd3 0-1 {White resigns}
>
>An interesting move here is 25 .. e4 from this position:
>
>[D] 1r1q1r1k/6pp/2npQ1b1/p2Np1b1/R1B5/1PP1NP2/6PP/R6K b - -
>
>Crafty 18.10 doesn't like this move:
>
> 25.     Qe6      e4
>                ({13:+0.33}  25. ... e4 26. fxe4 Ne5 27. Qh3 Bxe4 28. Rxa5 Nxc4
>29. Nxc4 Rf2 30. Qg4 Bxg2+ 31. Kg1 Bf3 32. Qf5 Rg2+ 33. Kf1 $14)
>                ({13:+0.00}  25. ... Be8 26. Qg4 Bg6 $10)
>                ({13:+0.00}  25. ... Bf7 26. Qg4 Bg6 $10)
>                ({13:+0.01}  25. ... Bxe3 26. Nxe3 Bf7 27. Qg4 Bxc4 28. Rxc4 Ne7
> 29. Ra3 Rf6 30. Rca4 Rc8 31. Nc4 Nd5 32. b4 Rf4 $10)
> 26.    fxe4     Ne5
> 27.    Rxa5
>                ({13:-1.06}  27. Rxa5 Bxe3 28. Nxe3 Bf7 29. Rxe5 Bxe6 30. Rxe6 Q
>g5 31. Re1 Rbd8 32. Nf5 Qd2 33. Rf1 Qxc3 34. Rxd6 Rxd6 35. Nxd6 Rxf1+ 36. Bxf1 Q
>xb3 $17)
>                ({13:-0.70}  27. Bf1 Rxb3 28. Rxa5 Bxe4 29. R5a4 Bg6 30. Ra8 Rb8
> 31. Rxb8 Qxb8 32. Kg1 Bxe3+ 33. Nxe3 Rf6 34. Qe7 Be4 $15)
>                ({13:-0.81}  27. Qh3 Nxc4 28. Rxc4 Rxb3 29. Nf5 Rb2 30. Qg4 h5 3
>1. Qf3 Rb5 32. Rd4 Bf6 33. Rda4 Bg5 $17)
>
>But notice that by move 27, it sees that as a result of e4 fxe4 Ne5, White can't
>do better than -0.70.
>
>Pharaon itself switches to e4, early but the score doesn't start to go up
>significantly for quite a while:
>
> 7.    -28    1   353770  e4 fxe4 Re8 Qh3 Bxe4 Nf5 h6
> 7->   -28    2   469433  e4 fxe4 Re8 Qh3 Bxe4 Nf5 h6
> 8.    -33    2   802767  e4 fxe4 Re8 Qh3 Bxe4 Nf5 Re5 Nde3
> 8.    -33    5  1573056  Be8!
> 8.    -33    5  1701477  Re8!
> 8->   -33    6  1934613  e4 fxe4 Re8 Qh3 Bxe4 Nf5 Re5 Nde3
> 9.    -19    7  2533726  e4 fxe4 Re8 Qg4 Bxe4 Rf1 Rb7 Nf5 Rf7
> 9->   -19    9  3059277  e4 fxe4 Re8 Qg4 Bxe4 Rf1 Rb7 Nf5 Rf7
>10.     -7   13  4968281  e4 fxe4 Re8 Qg4 Bxe4 Rf1 Re5 Qh3 Qe8 Nf4
>10->    -7   16  5944242  e4 fxe4 Re8 Qg4 Bxe4 Rf1 Re5 Qh3 Qe8 Nf4
>11.     -4   24  9099300  e4 fxe4 Re8 Qg4 Bxe4 Qh5 Rb7 Rd1 Re5 Ng4 Qe8
>11->    -4   31 11430433  e4 fxe4 Re8 Qg4 Bxe4 Qh5 Rb7 Rd1 Re5 Ng4 Qe8
>12.      8   81 30163019  e4 fxe4 Ne5 Qh3 Bxe4 Be2 Bxd5 Nxd5 Rf2 Bd3 Nxd3 Qxd3
>                          Rxb3 Rxa5
>12->     8   95 35602128  e4 fxe4 Ne5 Qh3 Bxe4
>13.     31  188 71214188  e4 fxe4 Ne5 Qh3 Bxe4 Qg3 Nxc4 Rxc4
>13->    31  215 81280627  e4 fxe4 Ne5 Qh3 Bxe4 Qg3 Nxc4 Rxc4
>14.     39  538 205827618  e4 fxe4
>
>(Scores here are + for a Black advantage, unlike Crafty: so the score at ply 14
>is 0.39 in Black's favor).
>
>So far I'm not sure if e4 is decisively the best move, or if there's a better
>defense to it. It is peculiar that both programs expect the PV e4 fxe4 Ne5 Qh3,
>but think (for a long while) that the score is even or + for White.

Gaviota

epdtest \e4.epd



       109   1:      0.0    +0.56  Rb8-b7
       586   2:      0.0    +0.52  Rb8-b7   Qe6-g4
      3168   3:      0.0    +0.70  e5-e4    Qe6-g4   e4xf3    g2xf3
      7891   4       0.1    +0.71  e5-e4    f3xe4    Nc6-e5   Ra4xa5
                                   Bg6xe4
     10980   4:      0.2    +0.71  e5-e4    f3xe4    Nc6-e5   Ra4xa5
                                   Bg6xe4
     21041   5       0.3    +0.65  e5-e4    f3xe4    Nc6-e5   Qe6-h3
                                   Rf8-e8   Ra4xa5   Bg6xe4
     34149   5:      0.4    +0.65  e5-e4    f3xe4    Nc6-e5   Qe6-h3
                                   Rf8-e8   Ra4xa5   Bg6xe4
     69219   6       0.7    +0.51  e5-e4    f3xe4    Nc6-e5   Qe6-h3
                                   Ne5xc4   b3xc4
    117191   6:      1.2    +0.51  e5-e4    f3xe4    Nc6-e5   Qe6-h3
                                   Ne5xc4   b3xc4
    213485   7       2.0    +0.50  e5-e4    f3-f4    Bg5xf4   Nd5xf4
                                   Rf8xf4   Qe6-d5   Qd8-d7   Qd5-d2
    363585   7:      3.1    +0.50  e5-e4    f3-f4    Bg5xf4   Nd5xf4
                                   Rf8xf4   Qe6-d5   Qd8-d7   Qd5-d2
    638646   8       5.1    +0.53  e5-e4    f3xe4    Nc6-e5   Qe6-h3
                                   Ne5xc4   b3xc4    Rf8-f2   Qh3-g3
   1021307   8:      8.3    +0.53  e5-e4    f3xe4    Nc6-e5   Qe6-h3
                                   Ne5xc4   b3xc4    Rf8-f2   Qh3-g3
   1674486   9      12.8    +0.55  e5-e4    f3xe4    Rf8-e8   Qe6-g4
                                   Re8xe4   Qg4-g3   Bg5-h4   Qg3-f3
                                   Re4-e5
   2369454   9:     17.8    +0.55  e5-e4    f3xe4    Rf8-e8   Qe6-g4
                                   Re8xe4   Qg4-g3   Bg5-h4   Qg3-f3
                                   Re4-e5
   3471331  10      25.8    +0.31  e5-e4    f3xe4    Rf8-e8   Qe6-g4
                                   Re8xe4   Qg4-e2   Qd8-e8   Ra1-e1
                                   Nc6-e5   Ra4xa5   Ne5xc4   b3xc4
  14856506  10:    129.0    +0.31  e5-e4    f3xe4    Rf8-e8   Qe6-g4
                                   Re8xe4   Qg4-e2   Qd8-e8   Ra1-e1
                                   Nc6-e5   Ra4xa5   Ne5xc4   b3xc4
  21646524  11     186.7    +0.66  e5-e4    f3-f4    Bg5xf4   Nd5xf4
                                   Rf8xf4   Qe6-d5   Bg6-f7   Qd5-d1
                                   Bf7xc4   Ne3xc4   d6-d5    Nc4xa5
                                   Nc6-e5
  25428551  11:    219.1    +0.66  e5-e4    f3-f4    Bg5xf4   Nd5xf4
                                   Rf8xf4   Qe6-d5   Bg6-f7   Qd5-d1
                                   Bf7xc4   Ne3xc4   d6-d5    Nc4xa5
                                   Nc6-e5
  34619525  12     299.1    +0.39  e5-e4    f3-f4    Bg5xf4   Nd5xf4
                                   Rf8xf4   Qe6-d5   Bg6-f7   Qd5-d1
                                   Bf7xc4   Ne3xc4   d6-d5    Nc4xa5
                                   Qd8-d7   b3-b4



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