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Subject: Re: Hello from Edmonton (and on Temporal Differences)

Author: Sune Fischer

Date: 12:24:50 08/04/02

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On August 04, 2002 at 14:46:18, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On August 04, 2002 at 14:06:55, Sune Fischer wrote:
>
>will, believe, think, consider.
>
>Please proof it. chess is very simple compared to other
>applications where automatic tuning is supposed to work
>in the future.
>
>So far i have not seen a single decent program that
>can do better with automatic tuning than without.

Well, maybe you have, do you know how the pros are tuned?

How can it be, that the pros have such a good evaluator, while you being an
FM(!), can't make something better?

>there is a shitload of freeware programs and volunteers to rewrite
>them to enable automatic tuning. Please
>pick a strong program and tune it. I would advice crafty.
>A small parameter set. Even big advantage for the tuners,
>but already a good program to start with.

It is a non-trivial exercise to do, and I don't know every character of
Crafty's code. Besides I would rather spend time on implementing this in my own
program and get an edge :)

I believe I can make it work, maybe even improve on it.
It isn't real important to me whether you believe it works or not, I think you
should follow your ideas and I will follow mine, actually I prefer if you forget
all about TDLeaf as soon as possible :)

>Finding the best values as a human isn't trivial. It sure isn't
>for programs. But humans use domain knowledge your tuner doesn't.

KnightCap was too interesting a project not to follow up on, I'm very surprized
it hasn't been done already.
To see people write that it doesn't work when a) KnightCap proved it _did_ work,
and 2) they have not even attempted it themselfs, is very funny to me.

-S.



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