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Subject: Re: Max positional score difference

Author: José Carlos

Date: 04:14:56 11/15/02

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On November 15, 2002 at 02:07:43, Nagendra Singh Tomar wrote:

>I was expecting posts regarding the passed pawn status.. I am sorry I did'nt put
>it in my email; but I am interested in other positional attributes other than
>passed pawn bonus..
>
>regds
>tomar
>
>On November 15, 2002 at 01:54:17, Scott Gasch wrote:
>
>>On November 15, 2002 at 00:23:42, Nagendra Singh Tomar wrote:
>>
>>>Hi All,
>>>       I think this question has been asked in different forms in this forum but
>>>I was less than satisfied, so I am putting the question once more.
>>>
>>>How much can be the maximum allowable difference in positional score of the two
>>>sides ?
>>>
>>>i.e assuming BLACK during its search hits a position in the leaf and calls
>>>evaluate, evaluate() finds that black's pieces are wonderfully placed and whites
>>>pieces are pathetically placed but still black is say a bishop down. Is it
>>>sensible to return a +ve eval score in this.
>>>I mean can the maximum allowable difference in positional score  be as high as a
>>>bishop or knight's score.
>>>
>>>Comments ?
>>>
>>>tomar
>>
>>
>>Having a passer that can run is a positional feature worth +(QUEEN-PAWN).
>>
>>Scott

  I don't have winboard or something to make FEN strings here, so I can't post
diagrams, but I hope you'll figure in your mind:
  W: Nh1, Pf2, Pg3
  B: Pf3, Pg4
  White has a knight on h1, but it's worth nothing unless white can capture one
of the black pawns.
  Another example: activity.
  W: Pd4,Pe5,Pf4,Rd1,Rf1
  B: Pc4,Pd5,Pf5,Ne6,Rb2
  Both sides have a defended passed pawn. Black rook in in seventh (active) and
black knight attacks two pawns (active); both white rooks defend (passive).
  There're more examples, but I'm at work and the boss is around ;)
  As other posters have said, king attacks and unstopable passed pawns are
usually the concepts that have higher positional values.

  José C.



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