Author: Peter Kappler
Date: 20:03:31 09/11/03
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On September 11, 2003 at 15:13:48, Robin Smith wrote: >On September 11, 2003 at 10:59:32, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On September 10, 2003 at 21:11:51, Robin Smith wrote: >> >>>On September 10, 2003 at 13:26:38, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>One thing I really dislike is resumption of moves. IE >>>> >>>>23. e3 (some comment) then 23... black's next real move. The "..." looks >>>>ugly. In many old annotations, the better form 23. ... black's move makes more >>>>sense. >>>> >>>>But in any case, nn... is ugly... >>> >>>Why? Most chess books published these days use nn... Also this is what chessbase >>>produces when you export a game to text. Ugly or not, I think nn... has become >>>the norm, and it takes less space. >> >> >>The original intent was for the "..." to indicate "there is a move missing, >>you need to back up to the last move actually played..." >> >>All the books I have use 21. ... Re7, for example. > >Every book by Gambit uses nn..., Everyman Chess uses nn... etc. Some of the >modern books I have don't use a . for white moves, and therefore for a black >move use nn ... (Cadogan, Batsford, Pergamon etc). The books I have that use nn. >... are very old, or by small publishers like C.I.R.C. Do you have an old book >collection? > >>It is easier to >>parse. One token (always) for the move number. One token for a missing >>move, one for a real move. Rather than one token that can be a move number >>or a move number _and_ a missing move. > >I think there is a big advantage to staying cosistent with what both Chessbase >and ChessAssistant do, which is nn... If PGN readers suddenly can't parse >Chessbase or Chessassistant output, that seems like an even bigger problem. >Perhaps there could be a different token for missing moves, besides ..., to fix >the parsing problem? I agree. All modern books and tools use the ... convention. Changing this now doesn't seem like a good idea. -Peter
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