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Subject: Re: Shredder wins in Graz after controversy

Author: Omid David Tabibi

Date: 07:47:58 12/09/03

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On December 09, 2003 at 10:36:42, Steffen Jakob wrote:

>On December 09, 2003 at 10:28:49, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>
>>On December 09, 2003 at 10:09:33, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>
>>>On December 09, 2003 at 10:05:05, K. Burcham wrote:
>>>
>>>>GCP, are you saying that the program Jonny, and the operator of Jonny did not
>>>>know about the repetition until informed by Mr. Z?
>>>>are you saying that the program Jonny also could not detect the position had
>>>>been played for the third time?
>>>
>>>Mr Zwanzer = Jonny programmer = Jonny operator
>>>
>>>Jonny did not know that a 3 fold repetition is a draw.
>>
>>It did output a score of 0.00, didn't it? So, how do you expect the engine to
>>show that it is aware of the draw? To open a seperate command line window, make
>>a load drum sound like that of Quark, and shout "I know, I know, it is a
>>repetition"? :)
>
>Hi Omid,
>
>as I said in another posting Jonny already gives a draw score for the 2nd
>repetition. It doesnt know about the 3 fold repetition rule!

That's also what Falcon does, and I believe several other engines also do. When
running in WinBoard, Falcon checks in main() for threefold repetition, but when
running under UCI, it leaves the draw detection for the interface (as it should
be).

Trying to drill into the engine brain to know whether it really knew about the
draw or not looks like some kind of Spanish inquisition! What counts is that the
chess playing system under the name Jonny, did announce threefold repetition.

P.S. If we are in the business of ignoring the interface, then we must ignore
all the book moves, as the interface makes them while the engine is dead asleep
:)



>
>Greetings,
>Steffen.



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