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Subject: Re: Shredder wins in Graz after controversy

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 02:15:53 12/10/03

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On December 10, 2003 at 03:50:05, martin fierz wrote:

>On December 09, 2003 at 23:22:12, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>>This nonsense about playing a 3-repeat move and hoping the opponent won't
>>see it is totally ridiculous in the context of alpha/beta searching that we
>>are all using.
>
>you are the one talking nonsense here. if you don't have to claim a draw, why do
>it? you have obviously never played real chess yourself, or you would understand
>this very well.

No

There is a difference between comp-comp games and comp-human games.
In comp-comp games I always claim a draw in this situation.

>even in the context of alpha-beta search this *can* be useful. your opponent
>might have a bug, or he might have less time than before and play a different
>move. you can't know with 100% certainty that he will repeat, so why not make
>him show? granted in 99 of 100 cases, you will gain nothing. but you will not
>lose anything by trying...

It is a waste of time not to claim a draw because I do not assume that my
opponent has a stupid bug and I expect the opponent to claim a draw in drawn
positions.

There are better ways to improve an engine then caring about bugs of opponents
that I do not expect to happen.

Uri



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