Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 14:09:17 12/10/03
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On December 10, 2003 at 16:41:58, Bob Durrett wrote: >On December 10, 2003 at 15:26:12, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On December 10, 2003 at 10:40:09, Bob Durrett wrote: >> >>>On December 10, 2003 at 10:03:56, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>><snip> >>> >>>>The ICGA has ignored the problem. Including the problem of a shared book or >>>>book author. We have to live within the rules as stated, however, so I don't >>>>see a problem with _everybody_ using the best Kure book, with the Fritz GUI, >>>>until the rules are fixed to address the issue correctly. >>> >>>It seems that engines are handicapped by using a standard book. A recent thread >>>discussed the possibility of starting with a standard book and then optimizing >>>the book for the specific engine by playing oodles of chess games with "opening >>>learning" enabled. The idea was that the "educated" book would be better for >>>that specific engine. >> >>This is not uncommon. It is a risk you take with using a globally-available >>book. But it might be that the globally-available book is so much better, the >>risk is worth it. >> >>> >>>Assuming that the above is correct, then it would seem that programmers would >>>prefer to NOT use a standard book but instead to use one optimized for their own >>>engine as above. >> >>What is happening is that a couple of book authors are doing books for >>different commercial engines. And the real problem is that these book >>authors are _really_ good. Is it fair for a program to have to play against >>a _really_ strong book 3 times in a tournament (book from the same author) >>because he chooses to share it among three programs that are sold together? > >Perhaps the books used for commercial engines are available somehow? Are these >books different from the ones sold with the commercial programs? Yes they are different. That is the main point of the problem... > If so, I would >be irritated very much because I paid actual money for the books. I also use >the latest Fritz PowerBook. Are these books you're referring to MUCH better >than the latest Fritz PowerBook? Against computers, very definitely much better, yes. > >At the very least, one could start with the latest Fritz PowerBook and then >optimize it using learning and playing many games. Since Crafty plays many >games every day, I would expect the Crafty book to be the best possible book for >Crafty. > >Bob D. > ><snip>
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