Author: Anthony Cozzie
Date: 07:35:00 12/12/03
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On December 11, 2003 at 13:20:29, Sandro Necchi wrote: >Robert, > >I think it is not the case to continuo. I will stay on my ideas as you are going >to stay on yours. > >I am interested on winning games on the board and not in the forum. > >I am sorry, but I do trust more Darse than you, as well as the TD in Graz. > >I only hope that in future the programmers will agree to stop the games when the >score is not lower than -10 to avoid "ridiculus". > >By being a chess player I find to continuo playing "extremely lost games" >offensive and not useful at all to show how strong the chess programs have >become. > >I am saying this here now to avoid someone would link this to Shredder games. > >I am a true chess and computer chess lover and hate to see non senses like >playing extremely lost positions. > >How can a programmer be proud of not losing or winning a game extremely lost? > >Does it makes sense a statement like "well, this year my program did score very >well as we scored 5 out of 8 while last year I scored 0. The first game it went >down -12, but the opponent had a bug and we could win the game. The second one >the opponent had a mate in 12, but a bug made the program lose 3 pieces and we >won. The third game we won with 3 pieces less because the opponent program got a >bug that removed all the hashtables use and so on..." > >Wow there is a lot to be proud! > >I am clearly exagerrating, but it seems for some people this would be >acceptable... > >??????????????????????? >I will never understand this! > >Sandro As a human, I get annoyed when people continue when they are down a rook or more. I get _really_ annoyed when they beat me anyway :) And I can see your point, its something of an insult: the other player is saying that they can win even though they have a horribly lost position. However, computer-computer games are different IMHO. Computers don't have egos. They never get tired. Why not let it go all the way to checkmate? Do you think you deserve to win if your program can't play a simple mate in 8? anthony
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