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Subject: Re: Well said !!

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:47:14 02/15/04

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On February 15, 2004 at 16:07:11, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On February 15, 2004 at 15:52:35, Matthias Gemuh wrote:
>
>>On February 15, 2004 at 15:07:39, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Here we disagree.  I see nothing wrong with starting from some known point, so
>>>long as you eventually end up with nothing but your own code...  Otherwise you
>>>will spend a long time writing all the support stuff, and many lose interest
>>>before they get far enough along to actually see their creation play any real
>>>chess...
>>>
>>>IE this is where "C" came from.  Changes to "B".  Etc...
>
>Let's suppose that somehere in the process, your algorithms looked considerably
>similar to the ones that you started with.
>
>Then you let people use your program.  Someone noticed that some data arrays in
>your program were the same as in his.
>
>A big brew-ha-ha starts.
>
>Apparently the crime committed is that enough changes were not committed yet to
>make it unrecognizable.
>
>I do not think that this is the path that DanChess did.  Rather, he took ideas
>from crafty and grafted the algorithms into his program.  In doing so, he had to
>make changes to each idea that he adopted.
>
>This is somehow seen as a great crime, but the other not?
>
>Puzzling to me.  It is the copy/replace scheme that seems criminal to me.  And
>the adoption of ideas that seems totally harmless.


I'll remind you once again, I copied _lots_ of ideas over the years, from
various people like Slate, Thompson, et. al.  But I have never copied _any_
source code from anyone...

This is about source, not about ideas.  They are different.

I would have no problem whatsoever with DanChess had he did what he did, but
then evolved things to be significantly different _before_ starting to
distribute it as an original chess program.



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