Author: Daniel Clausen
Date: 03:17:53 07/28/04
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On July 28, 2004 at 05:47:53, Fabien Letouzey wrote: >On July 28, 2004 at 05:16:24, Russell Reagan wrote: > >>On July 27, 2004 at 06:39:25, Fabien Letouzey wrote: >> >>>I think this difference is Bruce's own interpretation and does not represent the >>>original PVS algorithm. I think that, in the official articles, both PVS and >>>NegaScout use what you describe as "negascout" here. >>> >>>I might be wrong. >>> >>>It seems Bruce's modification is an attempt to integrate the aspiration-search >>>assumption with PVS. This is interesting. >> >>How is "original PVS" different from Bruce's version? I learned Bruce's version >>first... :) > >OK, ignoring the PVS/NegaScout differences, normal PVS is: > >1) search the first (leftmost) move with full window >2) use a scout search (null window) for all other moves > >The assumption is that the first move will often be the best one. Bruce's >assumption seems to include the aspiration-search assumption (the final score is >likely to be inside of the window). > >Of course if aspiration is not used, both algorithms give the same result. > >Fabien. I get more and more confused. :) I liked the summary Pham gave in his previous post: (http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?379139) : negascout: : 1) Search with full window for the first move : 2) Search with zero window for the rest moves (it means from the second move) : 3) Research with full window if new value falls out of zero window : pvs: : 1) Search with full window if the bestmove has not been found yet (or the alpha has not been updated) : 2) Search with zero window for the rest moves : 3) Research with full window if new value falls out of zero window Do you agree with these "definitions"? If yes, isn't the algorithm Bruce mentions (http://www.brucemo.com/compchess/programming/pvs.htm) _exactly_ what PVS means? Sargon
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