Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 09:57:19 08/28/04
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On August 28, 2004 at 11:44:30, Gerd Isenberg wrote: >On August 28, 2004 at 10:23:53, Frank Quisinsky wrote: > >>Hi there, >> >>Eugenio sent us the following open letter. >>The letter is public on Arena webpages (News-Ticker). >> >>Best >>Frank >> >>Eugenio wrote: >> >>--- >> >>"I've used crafty source to implement my own program ElChinito. >> >>My public and sincere apologize to Bob Hyatt not to mention that in ElChinito's >>readme file and copyright notes and did not ask consequently for permission. I >>will ensure that ElChinito is not longer public available for download and plays >>any public tournaments. >> >>I've inform ICGA and French Computer Chess Association about this issue to >>accept their decision, and discalificate Chinito from the played events. >> >>My apologize to Frank Q. for the damages caused. >> >>My apologize to any one of the tester and downloaders of Arena. >> >>Eugenio Castillo." > > >My respect to Eugenio Castillo for his late apology. >It seems that he had a hard time and a long fight to decide so. > >It was a severe offence of Eugenio, i understand that routines like NextMove >have another quality than some cray like bitscan routines or moveInput. > >Eugenio obviously used Crafty framework as a toolbox for the bitboard >infrastructure and parts of move generation and even minor parts of eval. He >was, probably due his naivety, not fully aware of the cloning issue or did >repress it in some way, after receiving no answer from Bob after some tries. >Didn't Dann Corbit mention Eugenio mailed Bob about that issue, but Bob didn't >receive for what reasons ever? > >It is difficult to quantify for me, but it seems that most of ElChinitos >strength was not based on Crafty but on Eugenio's own search and most parts of >it's evaluation. > >So i respect his decision to don't make ElChinito open source and i suggest to >give ElChinito a second chance after some time, until Eugenio assures that no >more parts of crafty are inside - IMHO. > >Gerd This way you cant help a collegue! You do the same, already Frank Q did. You try to blame those who were cheated. This is indecent. A guy who committed fraud stated that he had contacted Bob, Frank said, several times, and who said that Bob didn't answer (!!), but Bob explained that he had never received a request by Castillo. Do you, Gerd, now want to put Bob and Castillo on equal levels. I must honestly say that you can forget all about a rehabilitation in this case. I do also feel much sorrow that Frank Q and also you insulted Paul H here in CCC of something like witchhunt. I mean you should apologize instead of publishing such utter nonsense in your actual message. I mean is this scene so rotten dirty that you cant feel what this is dirty in your message?
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