Author: Uri Blass
Date: 14:26:09 02/19/05
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On February 19, 2005 at 15:53:17, Arturo Ochoa wrote: >On February 19, 2005 at 13:27:28, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On February 19, 2005 at 11:07:44, Arturo Ochoa wrote: >> >>>On February 18, 2005 at 14:49:17, Dan Honeycutt wrote: >>> >>>>On February 18, 2005 at 10:26:15, Arturo Ochoa wrote: >>>> >>>>[snip] >>>>> >>>>>Again the question: If you are not playing to win, why do you spend time >>>>>participating in Tournaments? This is really funny: To participate in a >>>>>Tournament and planning to be the last place of it. :))))) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Hi Arturo: >>>> >>>>I know you hold a certain animosity toward Uri. He gets on my nerves at times >>>>as well. But your rush to ridicule everything he says can make you blind. Many >>>>of us amateurs do this as a hobby for fun. Sure, it's nice to see your engine >>>>do well, but winning is not the most important thing. >>>> >>> >>>Well, if you do it for fun as I do it. It is great! I have not earned any money >>>from computer chess. I dont need that. I just do it for fun too. >>> >>>However, if you participated in a Tournament, you would enjoy winning. The >>>excuses "I was not going to participate but I was requested to do it or I >>>participated but I did not plan to win" are just weird. >>> >>>What I do is to ignore the messages of Mr. Blass. However, the edge of my >>>patience is over with all the nonsense said. Of course, I can live without >>>reading this Forum. Nevertheless, this week was a bit different. >>> >>>regards, Arturo. >>> >>>Best wishes for you, your spanish and your engine Bruja. (y) >> >>I do not understand the fun of working on book. >>I can understand that it may give points but for me this job seem boring and >>improving the engine is more interesting. >> > >I dont understand the fun of doing an engine that participates in Tournaments to >loose. For you, it is boring but the same work is done when you pratice the live >chess. You must study all the game phases and you must be prepared against your >opponents. For _Arturo Ochoa_ and other people is a fun astivity as well as >intestering to understand the game style of an engine after the opening phase. >For _Uri Blass, it is demanding, boring and useless. The time has said who is >not in the right way.... I do not say that it is useless and I agree that it can help engines to win a tournaments if the engines are strong enough. The point is that if you think not about the near future it seems that the work about opening book is not important because the opening book will have irrelevant stuff like avoiding the french defence if the engine does not know to play it well when future version of the same engine will not need it. > > >>I think that I may decide to learn from tord and not to participate in >>tournaments(at least not in the near future) > >Up to you. Just other games and sports, if you participate in a competition is >to try to win, not to loose. In that case what is the reason that other engines including zappa played in previous tournaments without book. I remember that when zappa first played in CCT is played without book and I am sure anatony knew at that time that he has no chances to win the tournament. > > >> >>It is also possible that I will leave computer chess >>No promise that I will have time for it. > >Well, despite of all my personal activities and I find quite fun my activities >in computer chess. > > >> >>People say that is simply not useful and there is nor much money in it. >>The fact that SMK was able to reply my email in the same day very fast(nothing >>against him and it is of course very nice by him) tell me that he probably has >>not many customers. > >I think this is tenth time that I have repeated this: I do this for fun and I >have never done this for money. I have a good work in my country not related to >computer chess. > >I dont know how many customers could have a specifi author. I suppose this is a >classified information. I would never reveal my target freely for my >competitors. I think he wont reveal such a classified information. > >AO. Yes I guess that I will not get an answer so I even did not ask it. I also develop the engine for fun and I guess that I will not be able to make money from it. The point is that I am not sure if I will have time in the future to work much about improving the engine. I have also other things that I like to do for fun and developing movei is not the only thing that I do when I guess that I will not be able to make money of it. Uri
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