Author: gerold daniels
Date: 06:13:03 09/05/05
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On September 04, 2005 at 17:39:28, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >There, I said it. > >I can't believe what I'm reading in the "Zappa retail no UCI whine whine" >thread. 95% of the people posting in that thread are or have always been happily >using Junior, Fritz, Hiarcs, Nimzo and ChessTiger versions which only run under >1 interface. > >The ChessBase interface has historically always had SEVERE bugs in UCI and/or >WinBoard support which coincidencially always handicapped the external engines. >Yes, some of the most visible bugs have been fixed, but the interface still has >many left[1] and I am sure other ones will 'accidentally' be introduced again in >the future. > >You are really asking all engine authors to BEND OVER for their competitor, so >THEY have to work around the bugs of ChessBase and, if they are very lucky, then >perhaps be able to play some games without too much handicap (book, learning) in >the competitors GUI. > >Don't give me any crap about Arena or Shredder, I know 95% of you is really >using Fritz so you can test against CB engines. I can easily tell from the >support questions. > >I asked Vincent and he confirmed that his GUI *does* support UCI correctly, so >you can still play your beloved UCI engines against Zappa *in it's own GUI*. >What, not happy because you can't test Fritz against Zappa easily? Well, tough >luck. Why did you buy Fritz or Junior anyway as it has NEVER supported playing >in anything else than it's native interface? And now you are complaining about >Zappa? Can you spell "HYPOCRITE"? > >At least this way we can perhaps get some INNOVATION and NEW FEATURES inside a >GUI. I have been here long enough that I remember the time when there was really >competition in that area, and a new release brought something special, something >new in terms of features. This is GONE with the hegemony of ChessBase GUI's and >it CANNOT be restored if one sells engines just so they can run under Yet >Another Buggy ChessBase GUI. > >I am very curious to see Zappa be released commercially and will certainly buy >it not only for the engine, but also to see what FEATURES the GUI can offer. > >It's already very said that computer chess has been damaged so much by the >hegemony of one vendor and now you, users, are ASKING for it to be continued. >Are you really so blind, so shortsighted, and so DUMB that you cannot see that >another interface also offers many ADVANTAGES? > >So please, all the !#%&(%* that are saying they won't buy Zappa if it doesn't do >UCI: go buy Fritz 9 and enoy your HUMAN-OPTIMIZED ALL NEW IMPROVED MORE >KNOWLEDGE INTENSIVE CRASHES ONLY EVERY 5 MINUTES CHESSPROGRAM THAT DOESNT >SUPPORT UCI ANYWAY! > >Meanwhile, sane people can enjoy a game against the WORLD CHAMPION in a new GUI >that I am very curious to see. > >-- >GCP Thanks for the post GCP. Looks like Zappa will be a good seller. Thanks to Mr.Cozzie we have another top chess program. Gerold.
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