Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 11:30:50 11/28/05
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On November 28, 2005 at 08:15:39, stuart taylor wrote: >On November 28, 2005 at 02:04:17, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >>On November 27, 2005 at 17:01:28, stuart taylor wrote: >> >>>How's the Shredder tuning coming on now? Does it look like it will again take >>>the competition with a storm? >> >>Stefan did not started yet, but he feels he can do it. >> >>>Just those few improvements, and it might make for the REAL companion for true >>>expert super GM analysis and other values. >>>It should also be honest knowledge and understanding programmed in it, and not >>>just something to outsmart the competition, subjectively, due to the particular >>>mechanical weaknesses with present programs, or book competitions etc. >> >>Stefan will work hard on the chess engine and I will improve the book. We feel >>optimistic about the outcome. > >You are admitting what other programmers maybe do not. But it doesn't matter to >me if he works on it for only half an hour, if the results are fantastic. BUT, >nevertheless, I would have prefered that all the time I'm waiting, forthe whole >year, it is being worked on. > >I mean, if it was, then wouldn't it get to be 200 elo stronger? whereas if he >only does it for a few weeks, it will only get 50 elo stronger (if that)? Well, you do not me enough...what I would like is a program that scores 100% against the competition or better (120%). I am joking but in reality I am never satisfied, so if it was for me 500 points more would be the minimum...is it enough? > >> >>> >>>I really would have liked to feel that it's being worked on the whole year, not >>>just a few small improvements, just to get to the top, with plenty left for the >>>next upgrade (Shredder 11). >> >>The next upgrade will be Shredder 10...I am sure it will be stronger than 9...it >>must be. > >I mean, Shredder 9 might be 50 elo better and Shredder 11 another 50 = 100 elo >stronger than 9? >Why not put it all into Shredder 10, so that it would be 100 stronger, if not >200? We need to keep the gap that there was before, so you can guess how much we need. > >> >>>Waiting in great anticipation! >>>S.Taylor >>> >>>n.b. Or other programmers, are any of you REALLY expecting of breaking away from >>>all competition? >>>S.T. >> >>the fight did not started yet...wait Shredder 10... > >We hope! But I'm not so interested in just about winning the fight overall. I'm >waiting years already for a really finished product, which is much stronger in >every way, espially when computer is alone without books, and that the strength >comes from great and correctly applied chess knowledge. Well, I do feel the same as you, but WITH BOOKS! Do you want to remove my hobby? I am joking! I think the books add something, but the engine is KING, so the engine must be strong even without books. > >But all this is perhaps not the comercial way of seeing things! Yes, a little!:-) >S.Taylor >> Sandro
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