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Subject: Re: Get your engines round these two

Author: Paul Jacobean Sacral

Date: 05:50:20 11/29/05

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On November 29, 2005 at 08:28:14, Jack Lad wrote:

>[d] 2K3Q1/8/7k/2r5/b7/8/8/8 w - - 0 1

These are 5-piece endings. Shredder 9 SE (which has no tbs. access of the
engine) and Toga II 1.1 clearly prefer the only winning move 1.Kd8 from the
beginning, 0:00 seconds, but of course cannot announce #66

Analysis by Shredder 9 SE:

1.Kb8 Rb5+ 2.Kc7 Rc5+ 3.Kd6 Rc6+ 4.Ke5 Kh5
  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 3/5   00:00:00
  ²  (0.42)   Depth: 5/16   00:00:00
1.Kb7 Rb5+
  ²  (0.43)   Depth: 5/16   00:00:00
  ²  (0.43)   Depth: 5/16   00:00:00
1.Kd8 Ra5 2.Qg4 Ra8+
  ²  (0.44)   Depth: 5/16   00:00:00
  ²  (0.44)   Depth: 6/19   00:00:00
1.Kb7 Ra5 2.Kc7 Kh5 3.Qh7+ Kg4 4.Qe4+ Kg5 5.Qg2+ Kf5 6.Qg3
  ²  (0.45)   Depth: 6/19   00:00:00
  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 7/21   00:00:00  73kN
1.Kd8 Rg5 2.Qh8+ Kg6 3.Ke7 Rf5 4.Qh3 Re5+ 5.Kd6 Rg5 6.Qe6+ Kh5 7.Qf7+ Kh6 8.Qf4
Bb5 9.Ke7
  ²  (0.48)   Depth: 7/21   00:00:00  79kN
  ²  (0.50)   Depth: 19/44   00:01:53  75313kN


Analysis by Toga II 1.1:

1.Kb7 Bc6+ 2.Kb6
  =  (0.16)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
  =  (0.16)   Depth: 2/5   00:00:00
1.Kb8 Rf5 2.Kc7
  =  (0.17)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:00
  =  (0.17)   Depth: 3/10   00:00:00
1.Kb7 Rf5 2.Qe6+ Kg5 3.Qe3+ Kg6 4.Qg3+ Kh5 5.Qd3 Rf7+ 6.Kb6
  =  (0.19)   Depth: 3/10   00:00:00
  =  (0.20)   Depth: 7/16   00:00:00  75kN
1.Kd8 Rg5 2.Qe6+ Rg6 3.Qe3+ Kh5 4.Qe2+ Kg5 5.Qd2+ Kh4 6.Qh2+ Kg4 7.Qg2+ Kh5
8.Qh3+ Kg5 9.Qg3+ Kf5 10.Qf2+ Kg5 11.Qg1+ Kh5 12.Qh1+ Kg5 13.Qd5+ Kh4 14.Ke7 Bc6
15.Qd4+ Kh5 16.Qe5+ Kh4
  =  (0.21)   Depth: 7/18   00:00:00  141kN
  =  (0.24)   Depth: 20/46   00:04:28  305746kN


>[d] k7/2K5/8/8/BR6/8/8/5q2 w - - 0 1

#19 according to the tbs. The only winning move is Bb5.

Analysis by Shredder 9 SE:

1.Bc6+ Ka7 2.Rb7+ Ka6 3.Bb5+ Qxb5 4.Rxb5 Kxb5
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 3/8   00:00:00
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00
1.Bd7 Ka7 2.Rb7+ Ka6 3.Bb5+ Qxb5 4.Rxb5 Kxb5
  +-  (3.63)   Depth: 5/12   00:00:00
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 7/22   00:00:00  16kN
1.Bb5 Qf7+ 2.Bd7 Qa2 3.Bc6+ Ka7 4.Rb7+ Ka6 5.Bb5+ Ka5 6.Ra7+ Kxb5 7.Rxa2 Kc5
8.Ra5+ Kd4 9.Kd6 Kd3 10.Rd5+ Ke3 11.Re5+
  =  (0.01)   Depth: 7/22   00:00:00  21kN
  +-  (6.92)   Depth: 24/42   00:01:21  63532kN


Analysis by Toga II 1.1:

1.Bd1 Qxd1
  -+  (-4.39)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
1.Bc2
  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
1.Bc6+ Ka7 2.Ra4+ Qa6 3.Rxa6+ Kxa6
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 1/8   00:00:00
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 6/14   00:00:00  13kN
1.Bb5 Qf7+ 2.Bd7 Qa2 3.Bc6+ Ka7 4.Rb7+ Ka6 5.Bb5+ Ka5 6.Ra7+ Kxb5 7.Rxa2 Kc5
8.Rh2 Kd5 9.Rh5+ Kd4 10.Kd6 Ke4 11.Rh4+ Kd3 12.Ke5 Kc3 13.Kd5 Kd3 14.Rh3+ Kd2
15.Kd4 Ke2 16.Rb3 Kd2
  +-  (5.10)   Depth: 6/16   00:00:00  19kN
  +-  (5.73)   Depth: 24/44   00:01:15  93941kN

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Yours truly Paul J. Sacral



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