Author: stuart taylor
Date: 18:55:27 11/29/05
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On November 29, 2005 at 20:29:55, Zappa wrote:
>On November 29, 2005 at 19:41:24, Sherry Windsor wrote:
>
>>On November 29, 2005 at 18:29:06, stuart taylor wrote:
>>
>>>I would be interested to know what peoples results are when playing one of the
>>>top programs (or even a bit lower than that), and removing the computers queen
>>>before the first move.
>>>NOT setting the computer to a lower level, but keeping it at its best, and just
>>>denying it its queen.
>>>
>>>Would anyone care to admit that they STILL lose almost every game even if they
>>>are rated 2000+?
>>>
>>>I'm not saying this SHOULD happen, but I think it is much harder than one would
>>>think, to beat the computer just because it is a queen down (from starting
>>>position).
>>>Anyone who hasn't tried, will probably think it would be a pushover if you just
>>>removed one rook or even one knight.
>>>But you might be in for a shock!
>>>Try to see what happens even if you remove the computers queen!
>>>Any results please?
>>>S.Taylor
>>
>>
>> I can beat it without a Queen , but have trouble if I remove a Knight.
>
>
>[Event "Computer chess game"]
>[Site "vanderboom"]
>[Date "2005.11.29"]
>[Round "-"]
>[White "Zappa 2.1b x64"]
>[Black "Anthony"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[TimeControl "40/300"]
>[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
>[SetUp "1"]
>
>{--------------
>r n b q k b n r
>p p p p p p p p
>. . . . . . . .
>. . . . . . . .
>. . . . . . . .
>. . . . . . . .
>P P P P P P P P
>R . B Q K B N R
>white to play
>--------------}
>1. Nf3 d5 2. b3 Nf6 3. Ba3 c6 4. e3 Bg4 5. Be2 Nbd7 6. O-O Qa5 7. Bb2 e6 8.
>Ne5 Nxe5 9. Bxe5 Bxe2 10. Qxe2 Be7 11. a4 O-O 12. Kh1 Nd7 13. Bd4 Bf6 14.
>b4 Qc7 15. a5 Bxd4 16. exd4 a6 17. f4 Rae8 18. Rae1 Qd6 19. c3 f6 20. Rf3
>e5 21. Re3 e4 22. f5 Re7 23. Rg3 Rfe8 24. Rh3 Nf8 25. Qg4 e3 26. Rexe3 Rxe3
>27. Rxe3 Rxe3 28. dxe3 Qe7 29. Qf4 Qe4 30. Qxe4 dxe4 31. g4 Kf7 32. Kg2 Ke7
>33. c4 Nd7 34. Kg3 b6 35. Kf4 bxa5 36. bxa5 c5 37. Kxe4 Kd6 38. Kd3 cxd4
>39. exd4 Nb8 40. Ke4 Nc6 41. c5+ Kd7 42. Kd3 Nxa5 43. d5 Nb7 44. c6+ Kc7
>45. cxb7 Kxb7 46. Kc4 Kb6 47. h4 h6 48. Kb4 a5+ 49. Kc4 a4 50. Kb4 a3
>{White resigns} 0-1
>
>Knight is actually harder than I thought.
Of course it is!
> The first time I lost after being way
>too aggressive in the opening.
Yes! that is one of the catches. You can even get over-confident with the extra
queen, and lose, if you started from the opening. In fact, you have to be a
strong player to win at ALL, with only an extra knight, from the beginning.
S.Taylor
>
>anthony
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