Author: Duncan Roberts
Date: 20:00:42 11/29/05
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On November 29, 2005 at 18:29:06, stuart taylor wrote:
>I would be interested to know what peoples results are when playing one of the
>top programs (or even a bit lower than that), and removing the computers queen
>before the first move.
>NOT setting the computer to a lower level, but keeping it at its best, and just
>denying it its queen.
>
>Would anyone care to admit that they STILL lose almost every game even if they
>are rated 2000+?
>
>I'm not saying this SHOULD happen, but I think it is much harder than one would
>think, to beat the computer just because it is a queen down (from starting
>position).
>Anyone who hasn't tried, will probably think it would be a pushover if you just
>removed one rook or even one knight.
>But you might be in for a shock!
>Try to see what happens even if you remove the computers queen!
>Any results please?
>S.Taylor
I am weak at chess but managed on my second attempt without a rook.
[Event "Computer Schach Partie"]
[Site "PC"]
[Date "2005.11.30"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Spieler"]
[Black "Fruit 2.1"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Time "03:49:05"]
[WhiteElo "2350"]
[TimeControl "120+6"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "1nbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQk - 0 1 "]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "88"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "program"]
1.e4 Nc6 {(Nb8c6 Nb1c3 Ng8f6 Ng1f3 d7d5 d2d3 d5d4 Nc3b5) -4.85/9 3} 2.Nc3 Nf6
{(Ng8f6 Ng1f3 d7d5 e4xd5 Nf6xd5 d2d4 Bc8g4 Bc1g5 Bg4f5) -4.70/9 2} 3.Nf3 d5
{(d7d5
e4xd5 Nf6xd5 Bf1c4 Nd5b6 Bc4b5 Bc8f5 00 Nb6d5) -4.83/9 2} 4.exd5 Nxd5 {(Nf6xd5
Bf1b5
Bc8f5 Nf3d4 Bf5d7 Bb5xc6 b7xc6 00 c6c5 Nd4b5) -4.94/9 6} 5.Nxd5 Qxd5 {(Qd8xd5
d2d4
Nc6b4 Qd1e2 Qd5c6 c2c3 Nb4d5) -4.49/7 2} 6.Qe2 Bf5 {(Bc8f5 d2d3 e7e5 Bc1d2 Bf8d6
g2g3) -4.09/7 2} 7.Qb5 Qxb5 {(Qd5xb5 Bf1xb5 Bf5xc2 d2d3 a7a6 Bb5xc6+ b7xc6 Ke1e2
e7e6
Nf3d4 Bc2a4 Bc1f4) -4.93/9 5} 8.Bxb5 e6 {(e7e6 Bb5xc6+ b7xc6 d2d3 Bf8d6 Bc1e3
c6c5
Ke1e2 Ke8d7 Nf3h4 Bf5g4+ Nh4f3) -5.19/9 4} 9.Bxc6+ bxc6 {(b7xc6 d2d3 Bf8d6 Bc1e3
Ke8d7 Be3xa7 c6c5 Rh1g1 Rh8a8 g2g4) -5.25/10 2} 10.d3 Bd6 {(Bf8d6 Bc1e3 Ke8d7
Be3xa7
c6c5 Nf3h4 Bf5g4 Ke1d2 Bd6f4+ Kd2c3) -5.19/10 3} 11.Be3 Kd7 {(Ke8d7 Nf3h4 Rh8b8
Nh4xf5 e6xf5 Ra1b1 Bd6e5 b2b3 Be5c3+ Ke1e2 Rb8e8) -5.30/9 4} 12.O-O Rb8 {(Rh8b8
b2b3
c6c5 Nf3g5 Bd6e5 Ra1e1 Be5c3 Ng5xf7 Bc3xe1 Rf1xe1) -4.71/9 3} 13.b3 a6 {(a7a6
Nf3g5
f7f6 Ng5e4 a6a5 f2f3 Bd6e5 Ra1e1 h7h6) -4.91/10 4} 14.Nd4 Bg6 {(Bf5g6 g2g3 e6e5
Nd4f3 h7h6 Rf1d1 f7f6 Kg1g2 Bd6b4) -4.76/9 3} 15.Rfd1 c5 {(c6c5 Nd4e2 c5c4 b3xc4
Bg6h5 f2f3 Rb8b2 Ne2f4 Bd6xf4 Be3xf4 Rb2xc2) -4.64/9 5} 16.Nf3 Bh5 {(Bg6h5 Ra1b1
Rb8b4 d3d4 Bh5xf3 g2xf3 c5xd4 Be3xd4 Rb4b5 f3f4 f7f6 Bd4c3) -4.37/11 6} 17.d4
Bxf3
{(Bh5xf3 g2xf3 Kd7c6 d4xc5 Bd6e7 Kg1g2 Be7xc5 Be3f4 f7f6) -4.48/9 3} 18.gxf3 c4
{(c5c4
d4d5 e6e5 Kg1f1 c7c6 Kf1e2 c4c3 a2a3 c6xd5 Rd1xd5) -4.65/9 3} 19.bxc4 Rb2
{(Rb8b2
c2c3 Rb2c2 c4c5 Bd6e7 Rd1c1 Rc2b2 Rc1b1 Rb2b5) -4.63/9 3} 20.c3 a5 {(a6a5 c4c5
Bd6e7
Kg1g2 a5a4 Rd1b1 a4a3 Be3c1 Rb2c2 Bc1xa3 Rc2xc3) -4.87/10 4} 21.Rd2 Rb8 {(Rb2b8
d4d5
e6xd5 c4xd5 Bd6e5 Ra1c1 c7c6 c3c4 g7g6) -4.77/9 3} 22.d5 h6 {(h7h6 d5xe6+ Kd7xe6
Ra1e1 Ke6f6 Rd2d5 a5a4 Be3d4+ Kf6g6 Rd5b5 c7c6) -5.04/8 5} 23.dxe6+ Kxe6
{(Kd7xe6
Ra1e1 Ke6f6 Rd2d5 a5a4 Be3d4+ Kf6g6 Rd5b5 Rb8d8 Rb5b7 f7f6) -5.25/10 3} 24.c5
Be5
{(Bd6e5 Ra1e1 Ke6f5 Rd2d7 Be5xc3 Re1d1 c7c6 Rd7xf7+ Bc3f6 Be3d4 Kf5e6) -5.12/10
3}
25.Bd4 f6 {(f7f6 Ra1e1 Ke6f5 Bd4xe5 f6xe5 Rd2d7 c7c6 Rd7xg7 Rb8b2 a2a3) -5.45/9
3}
26.Bxe5 fxe5 {(f6xe5 Ra1e1 Rb8b5 f3f4 Rb5xc5 Re1xe5+ Rc5xe5 f4xe5 Ke6xe5 Rd2d7
g7g5
Rd7xc7 Ke5e4 Kg1g2 Ke4d3 Kg2f3) -5.48/12 6} 27.Rdd1 Rb5 {(Rb8b5 c5c6 Rb5b6 Rd1d7
Rb6xc6 Rd7xg7 Rc6xc3 Rg7g6+ Ke6f5 Rg6xh6 Rc3c2 Rh6a6 Rc2c5) -5.03/12 7} 28.Rdb1
Rxc5
{(Rb5xc5 Rb1b3 a5a4 Rb3a3 Rc5c4 Ra1b1 Rc4f4 Rb1b7 Ke6d6 Kg1g2 Kd6c6 Rb7b1)
-4.25/12 5}
29.Rb3 a4 {(a5a4 Rb3a3 Rc5c4 Ra1b1 Rc4f4 Rb1b7 Ke6d6 Kg1g2 e5e4 f3xe4 Rf4xe4
Kg2f3)
-4.50/11 6} 30.Ra3 Rc4 {(Rc5c4 Ra1b1 c7c5 Kg1g2 Ke6f5 Rb1b7 g7g6 Rb7a7 h6h5
Ra7xa4
Rc4f4) -4.68/12 7} 31.Rb1 g6 {(g7g6 Rb1b4 Rc4c6 Rb4xa4 Rc6d6 Kg1g2 c7c6 Ra4g4
g6g5
h2h4 Ke6f5 h4xg5 h6xg5) -5.13/12 7} 32.Rb4 Rc6 {(Rc4c6 Rb4xa4 Rc6d6 Ra4g4 g6g5
Ra3a7
c7c6 h2h4 Ke6f5 h4xg5 Rd6d1+ Kg1g2 h6xg5 Ra7f7+ Kf5e6) -5.24/13 11} 33.Rbxa4 Rd6
{(Rc6d6 Ra4g4 g6g5 Ra3a7 Rd6c6 c3c4 Ke6f5 h2h4 g5xh4 Kg1g2 Rc6d6 Ra7xc7)
-5.37/12 7}
34.R4a6 Kf5 {(Ke6f5 Ra6xd6 c7xd6 Ra3b3 Kf5e6 a2a4 d6d5 Rb3b6+ Ke6d7 Rb6xg6 h6h5
Rg6h6
Kd7e7 Rh6xh5) -6.36/11 6} 35.Rxd6 cxd6 {(c7xd6 Ra3b3 Kf5e6 a2a4 Ke6d5 a4a5 Kd5c4
Rb3b4+ Kc4xc3 Rb4b7 d6d5 Rb7c7+ Kc3d4 a5a6) -8.85/11 7} 36.Kf1 h5 {(h6h5 Ra3a8
d6d5
a2a4 d5d4 a4a5 Kf5e6 Ra8a6+ Ke6d5 c3xd4) -5.86/9 2} 37.Ke2 Ke6 {(Kf5e6 Ra3b3
Ke6d7
a2a4 g6g5 a4a5 g5g4 f3xg4 h5xg4 Rb3b4 d6d5 Rb4xg4) -6.90/11 8} 38.Ke3 g5 {(g6g5
Ra3a8 Ke6d7 Ra8g8 g5g4 f3xg4 h5xg4 Rg8xg4 d6d5 f2f4 e5e4 Rg4g7+ Kd7e6) -6.59/10
4}
39.Rb3 Kd7 {(Ke6d7 a2a4 g5g4 a4a5 g4g3 h2xg3 Kd7c6 f3f4 Kc6d5 f4xe5 d6xe5)
-7.89/9 2}
40.a4 g4 {(g5g4 a4a5 g4g3 h2xg3 d6d5 a5a6 d5d4+ c3xd4 Kd7c6 d4xe5) -10.97/10 2}
41.fxg4 hxg4 {(h5xg4 a4a5 d6d5 a5a6 d5d4+ Ke3e4 g4g3 f2xg3 Kd7c7 a6a7 d4xc3
a7a8Q)
-14.93/9 5} 42.Ke4 g3 {(g4g3 f2xg3 Kd7e6 a4a5 d6d5+ Ke4e3 Ke6d6 a5a6 d5d4+ c3xd4
e5xd4+
Ke3xd4 Kd6c6) -9.66/9 2} 43.hxg3 Ke6 {(Kd7e6 a4a5 d6d5+ Ke4d3 e5e4+ Kd3e2 d5d4
a5a6
d4d3+ Ke2e3 d3d2 Ke3xd2) -13.37/9 2} 44.a5 d5+ {(d6d5+ Ke4d3 e5e4+ Kd3d2 Ke6d6
a5a6
Kd6d7 a6a7 Kd7d6 Rb3b1 Kd6e5 a7a8Q) -15.78/9 2} {Black resigns} 1-0
duncan
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