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Subject: Re: Anyone played computer which gives queen odds?

Author: Graham Banks

Date: 21:03:27 11/29/05

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On November 29, 2005 at 18:29:06, stuart taylor wrote:

>I would be interested to know what peoples results are when playing one of the
>top programs (or even a bit lower than that), and removing the computers queen
>before the first move.
>NOT setting the computer to a lower level, but keeping it at its best, and just
>denying it its queen.
>
>Would anyone care to admit that they STILL lose almost every game even if they
>are rated 2000+?
>
>I'm not saying this SHOULD happen, but I think it is much harder than one would
>think, to beat the computer just because it is a queen down (from starting
>position).
>Anyone who hasn't tried, will probably think it would be a pushover if you just
>removed one rook or even one knight.
>But you might be in for a shock!
>Try to see what happens even if you remove the computers queen!
>Any results please?
>S.Taylor


I don't like Blitz, so here's a 15m+10s game. My first game of chess for a
couple of years!
Time of moves varies greatly as I was trying to eat my tea and listen to a phone
call while I was playing.
No queen for White.

[Event "Blitz:15'+10""]
[Site "Howick"]
[Date "2005.11.30"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Deep Fritz 8"]
[Black "Banks, Graham"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Annotator "Banks,Graham"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "136"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]

1. e3 {[%eval -947,13] [%emt 0:00:52]} g6 {[%emt 0:00:11]} 2. Nf3 {
[%eval -899,14] [%emt 0:01:27]} d5 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 3. Bb5+ {
[%eval -911,13] [%emt 0:01:18]} Bd7 {[%emt 0:00:16]} 4. Be2 {
[%eval -926,14] [%emt 0:01:07]} c5 {(Nc6) [%emt 0:00:05]} 5. O-O {
[%eval -905,12] [%emt 0:00:35]} Bg7 {(Nc6) [%emt 0:00:09]} 6. d3 {
[%eval -911,12] [%emt 0:00:35]} e6 {(Qb6) [%emt 0:00:11]} 7. Nbd2 {
[%eval -909,12] [%emt 0:00:51]} Ne7 {[%emt 0:00:10]} 8. Rb1 {
[%eval -966,13] [%emt 0:00:59]} Nbc6 {(0-0) [%emt 0:00:10]} 9. Nb3 {
[%eval -945,12] [%emt 0:00:37]} b6 {(Qb6) [%emt 0:00:09]} 10. Bd2 {
[%eval -966,12] [%emt 0:00:48]} h5 {(0-0) [%emt 0:00:24]} 11. a3 {
[%eval -943,12] [%emt 0:01:02]} h4 {(Qc7) [%emt 0:00:56]} 12. h3 {
[%eval -949,12] [%emt 0:00:26]} Nf5 {(Qc7) [%emt 0:00:20]} 13. Bc1 {
[%eval -939,11] [%emt 0:00:25]} Ne5 {(Qc7) [%emt 0:01:29]} 14. Nxe5 {
[%eval -936,12] [%emt 0:00:25]} Bxe5 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 15. Nd2 {
[%eval -967,13] [%emt 0:00:51]} Rc8 {(Qc7) [%emt 0:01:00]} 16. Nf3 {
[%eval -953,12] [%emt 0:00:35]} Bb8 {(Bg7) [%emt 0:00:09]} 17. b3 {
[%eval -916,12] [%emt 0:00:21]} Rg8 {(0-0) [%emt 0:00:17]} 18. Bb2 {
[%eval -864,12] [%emt 0:00:42]} g5 {(Kf8) [%emt 0:00:34]} 19. Ne5 {
[%eval -832,11] [%emt 0:00:18]} Qc7 {(d4) [%emt 0:00:16]} 20. Ng4 {
[%eval -911,12] [%emt 0:00:37]} Nh6 {(d4) [%emt 0:00:38]} 21. Nf6+ {
[%eval -925,12] [%emt 0:00:33]} Ke7 {[%emt 0:00:16]} 22. Nxg8+ {
[%eval -962,11] [%emt 0:00:08]} Rxg8 {[%emt 0:00:16]} 23. f4 {
[%eval -989,12] [%emt 0:00:02]} gxf4 {[%emt 0:00:31]} 24. exf4 {
[%eval -1025,13] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nf5 {(d4) [%emt 0:00:29]} 25. Be5 {
[%eval -1015,11] [%emt 0:00:17]} Qd8 {[%emt 0:00:48]} 26. Bxb8 {
[%eval -1101,13] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qxb8 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 27. Rf2 {
[%eval -1164,13] [%emt 0:00:12]} Ne3 {(Kf8) [%emt 0:00:39]} 28. Bf3 {
[%eval -1245,12] [%emt 0:00:17]} Qxf4 {[%emt 0:00:28]} 29. b4 {
[%eval -1339,12] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qg3 {(cxb4) [%emt 0:00:35]} 30. c4 {
[%eval -1355,11] [%emt 0:00:26]} Qxh3 {(Nxg2) [%emt 0:00:23]} 31. bxc5 {
[%eval -1467,11] [%emt 0:00:21]} Qg3 {(Nxg2) [%emt 0:00:35]} 32. cxd5 {
[%eval -1424,11] [%emt 0:00:33]} h3 {[%emt 0:00:20]} 33. d6+ {
[%eval -2108,10] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kf8 {[%emt 0:00:14]} 34. Rbf1 {
[%eval -4149,10] [%emt 0:00:02]} h2+ {(Nxf1) [%emt 0:00:42]} 35. Kh1 {
[%eval -1810,11] [%emt 0:00:05]} Nf5 {(bxc5) [%emt 0:01:44]} 36. Be4 {
[%eval -1560,13] [%emt 0:00:24]} Qe5 {(bxc5) [%emt 0:01:03]} 37. Bxf5 {
[%eval -1427,13] [%emt 0:00:23]} exf5 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 38. cxb6 {
[%eval -1406,12] [%emt 0:00:09]} axb6 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 39. d4 {
[%eval -1457,12] [%emt 0:00:09]} Qxd6 {(Qxd4) [%emt 0:00:06]} 40. Rd2 {
[%eval -1848,12] [%emt 0:00:16]} Qxa3 {(Qg3) [%emt 0:00:55]} 41. Rc2 {
[%eval -1850,12] [%emt 0:00:19]} b5 {(Qd3) [%emt 0:00:26]} 42. Rfc1 {
[%eval -1810,11] [%emt 0:00:15]} b4 {(Qg3) [%emt 0:00:09]} 43. Rf1 {
[%eval -1942,12] [%emt 0:00:16]} b3 {(Qd3) [%emt 0:00:09]} 44. Rd2 {
[%eval -1991,12] [%emt 0:00:25]} b2 {(Qb4) [%emt 0:00:41]} 45. Rb1 {
[%eval -2543,13] [%emt 0:00:25]} Qg3 {[%emt 0:00:43]} 46. Rdxb2 {
[%eval -32756,14] [%emt 0:00:43]} Bc6 {(Rg6) [%emt 0:00:24]} 47. d5 {
[%eval -2550,14] [%emt 0:00:29]} Bxd5 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 48. Rb8+ {
[%eval -32756,12] [%emt 0:00:02]} Ke7 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 49. R1b7+ {
[%eval -32756,12] [%emt 0:00:06]} Kd6 {[%emt 0:00:15]} 50. Rd8+ {
[%eval -2551,13] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ke5 {(Ke6) [%emt 0:00:14]} 51. Rxd5+ {
[%eval -32757,11] [%emt 0:00:01]} Kxd5 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 52. Rb5+ {
[%eval -32759,9] [%emt 0:00:03]} Kc4 {(Kd6) [%emt 0:00:03]} 53. Rb4+ {
[%eval -32741,13] [%emt 0:00:05]} Kd3 {(Kc5) [%emt 0:00:16]} 54. Rb3+ {
[%eval -32742,12] [%emt 0:00:04]} Ke4 {(Kd4) [%emt 0:00:07]} 55. Rb4+ {
[%eval -32743,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ke5 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 56. Re4+ {
[%eval -32744,9] [%emt 0:00:02]} Kf6 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 57. Re6+ {
[%eval -32745,9] [%emt 0:00:02]} Kg7 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 58. Re8 {
[%eval -32746,7] [%emt 0:00:07]} Qxg2+ {(Qf2) [%emt 0:00:04]} 59. Kxg2 {
[%eval -32757,7] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rxe8 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 60. Kh1 {
[%eval -32757,7] [%emt 0:00:02]} Kg6 {(Re1+) [%emt 0:00:03]} 61. Kg2 {
[%eval -32759,7] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rh8 {(h1Q+) [%emt 0:00:06]} 62. Kf3 {
[%eval -32761,6] [%emt 0:00:01]} h1=Q+ {[%emt 0:00:03]} 63. Ke3 {
[%eval -32762,4] [%emt 0:00:03]} Rh4 {(Qe4+) [%emt 0:00:03]} 64. Ke2 {
[%eval -32763,5] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rh3 {(Qg2+) [%emt 0:00:05]} 65. Kf2 {
[%eval -32764,4] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qa1 {(Qf3+) [%emt 0:00:05]} 66. Kg2 {
[%eval -32764,6] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rb3 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 67. Kf2 {
[%eval -32765,3] [%emt 0:00:06]} Qa2+ {[%emt 0:00:02]} 68. Kf1 {
[%eval -32766,2] [%emt 0:00:02]} Rb1# {[%emt 0:00:01]} 0-1




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