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Subject: Re: Mate in 14

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 11:39:55 12/02/05

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On December 02, 2005 at 14:22:54, chandler yergin wrote:

>On December 02, 2005 at 12:21:55, F. Huber wrote:
>
>>On December 02, 2005 at 11:12:54, chandler yergin wrote:
>>
>>>On December 02, 2005 at 10:42:16, Rob Basham wrote:
>>>
>>>>[D]3Q4/bp3pp1/6k1/8/7R/6p1/B2p1PP1/q1rn2K1 w - - 0 1
>>>>
>>>>This is the recent neat Mate in 19 problem...after 5 moves are played...
>>>>
>>>>1. Qd3+
>>>>
>>>>CM-9000 ann. mate in 14 in 39 seconds.....SKR
>>>>
>>>>P3_850
>>>>
>>>>Rob
>>>
>>>Try Mate in 11 in 00:02
>>>New game
>>>[D]3Q4/bp3pp1/6k1/8/7R/6p1/B2p1PP1/q1rn2K1 w - - 0 1
>>>
>>>Analysis by Shredder 8:
>>>
>>>1.Qxd2 Nxf2+ 2.Qe1
>>>  -+  (-6.24)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
>>>1.Qxd2 Nxf2+ 2.Qd1 Nxd1+ 3.Rd4
>>>  -+  (-16.91)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
>>>1.Qxd2 Nxf2+ 2.Qd1 Nxd1+ 3.Rd4
>>>  -+  (-16.91)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
>>>1.Qh8 gxf2+ 2.Kf1 Qxa2
>>>  -+  (-12.13)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
>>>1.Qh8 Qxa2
>>>  -+  (-10.84)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
>>>1.Qh8 gxf2+ 2.Kf1 Qxa2
>>>  -+  (-10.77)   Depth: 1/6   00:00:00
>>>1.Qd5 Nxf2#
>>>  -+  (-8.59)   Depth: 1/6   00:00:00
>>>1.Qd5 Nxf2#
>>>  -+  (-8.59)   Depth: 1/6   00:00:00
>>>1.Bc4 Nxf2+
>>>  -+  (-8.46)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
>>>1.Bc4 Nxf2+ 2.Bf1
>>>  -+  (-8.46)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
>>>1.Bd5 Nxf2#
>>>  -+  (-8.41)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
>>>1.Bd5 Nxf2#
>>>  -+  (-8.41)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 2/2   00:00:00
>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 3/3   00:00:00
>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 4/4   00:00:00
>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 5/5   00:00:00
>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 6/6   00:00:00
>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 7/7   00:00:00  1kN
>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 8/8   00:00:00  2kN
>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 9/9   00:00:00  4kN
>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 10/10   00:00:00  6kN
>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 11/11   00:00:00  14kN
>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 12/12   00:00:00  26kN
>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 13/13   00:00:00  41kN
>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 14/14   00:00:00  75kN
>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 15/15   00:00:01  153kN
>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 16/16   00:00:01  247kN
>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+ Kf6 3.Qd6+ Kg5 4.Rh5+ Kxh5 5.Qxd2
>>>  +-  (#11)   Depth: 17/18   00:00:02  596kN
>>>
>>>(, MyTown 02.12.2005)
>>
>>And once again a wrong mate announcement by Shredder 8 - if I were you I would
>>throw away this engine!
>>
>>BTW, how should a #19 become a #11 after 5 moves???
>>
>>Franz.
>
>Easy.. it sees it. It may not be the best line and the evaluation may change
>after deeper search!
>If you like, I'll let it run longer. But how did you like the speed at which
>it found Mate in 14?
>Hmmm?

Shredder is simply wrong because there.

There is no mate in 11.

Shortest mate is mate in 14

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "New game"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "1-0"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "3Q4/bp3pp1/6k1/8/7R/6p1/B2p1PP1/q1rn2K1 w - - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "27"]

1. Qd3+ f5 2. Qxg3+ Kf6 3. Qd6+ Kg5 4. Rh5+ Kxh5 5. Bf7+ Kg5 6. Qg3+ Kf6 7.
Qg6+ Ke5 8. Qe6+ Kf4 9. g3+ Kg4 10. Qg6+ Kf3 11. Qxf5+ Ke2 12. Qb5+ Rc4 13.
Qxc4+ Ke1 14. Qf1# 1-0


If Shredder does not agree with one of these moves tell me which move of white
it does not agree.

Uri



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