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Subject: Re: Gambit Fruit 1.0 Beta 4b is out now

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 04:51:31 12/03/05

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On December 03, 2005 at 07:28:34, Eelco de Groot wrote:

>Hello Thorsten
>
>Going over the last moves of your game in analysis mode (Shredder interface 200
>Mb HT) Gambit Fruit for the Black positions with bitbases scores everything
>+0.19 when it captures the last knight. In your gamescore Gambit Fruit evals
>63..Kxf7 also as +0.19, but then for no apparent reason all the scores go to +2
>or +3. I can't reproduce that in analysis mode.

i had the bitbases in the folder. maybe it had access to them in the moment the
material was low enough. but in this case the bitbases seem to confuse.


>Was this maybe a game with ponder on between two of your computers?

no. ponder off. one machine.


>What do you
>get in analysis mode? Have you read the whole thread, you can check if bitbases
>are loaded correctly by rightclicking on the engine.

yes. i know.
i only had this game running while we were talking about it. so i thought i
paste this strange game. GUI was shredder classic.



>About the amount of Ram needed I don't know how much GambitFruit uses but in the
>read me it says Scorpio allocates just 18 Mb hash for the bitbases.

i see.

>Final position plus one more move, 68.Kh1 Gambit Fruit does not capture the pawn
>here because that leads to a 0.0 position? (I suppose that's why it is still a
>Beta, no matter, fun to experiment with. By the way Gambit Fruit beta 3 is still
>downloadable
>fromhttp://www.uciengines.de/UCI-Engines/GambitFruit/gambitfruit.html  Has lots
>of options, more extension options but also probably some more bugs. Testresults
>reported here were not so good)
>
>Hey how about a match Gambit Fruit against your Hiarcs X :)

in the moment all machine-capacity is used for testing hiarcs X versus all kind
of programs. but mainly programs we KNOW about .

bringing 2 programs against each other you don't know enough about is rarely
helpful.


Hiarcs 10 will IMO be a strong program.

To be honest, i am testing styling in the moment.
Especially if my OLD styles i used for h9 still work in h10.

in the moment testing is very difficult because the SPEED of change in
computerchess, the frequency of NEWS is so fast, that i cannot follow :-))
in the same speed.

Testing needs work.
> Eelco
>
>[D] 8/8/8/5k2/1b3P1p/8/8/7K b - -
>
>Engine: Gambit Fruit 1.0 Beta 4b (200 MB)
>gemaakt door Ryan Benitez, Thomas Gaksch and Fabien
>
>1/01   0:00   0.00     68...Kxf4 (2)
>
>1/01   0:00   +4.44    68...Le1 (3)
>
>2/03   0:00   +0.19--  68...Le1 69.Kg1 (29)
>
>3/05   0:00   0.00     68...Le1 69.Kg2 Kxf4 (67)
>
>4/05   0:00   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Lg3 70.Kg1 (382)
>
>5/09   0:00   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Kg4 70.f5 h3+ 71.Kh2 (903)
>
>6/09   0:00   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Kg4 70.f5 h3+ 71.Kh2 Lg3+
>                       72.Kh1 (1.604)
>
>7/11   0:00   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Kg4 70.f5 h3+ 71.Kh2 Lg3+
>                       72.Kg1 h2+ 73.Kh1 (2.411)
>
>8/13   0:00   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Kg4 70.f5 h3+ 71.Kh2 Lg3+
>                       72.Kg1 Kg5 73.f6 (3.450)
>
>9/13   0:00   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Kg4 70.f5 h3+ 71.Kh2 Lg3+
>                       72.Kg1 Kg5 73.f6 h2+ 74.Kh1 (4.630)
>
>10/15  0:00   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Kg4 70.f5 h3+ 71.Kh2 Lg3+
>                       72.Kg1 Kg5 73.f6 Kg4 74.Kh1 (5.979)
>
>11/19  0:00   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Kg4 70.f5 h3+ 71.Kh2 Lg3+
>                       72.Kg1 Kg5 73.f6 Ld6 74.f7 Lf8
>                       75.Kh2 (7.787)
>
>12/19  0:00   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Kg4 70.f5 h3+ 71.Kg1 Lb4
>                       72.f6 Kg3 73.Kh1 Lc5 74.f7 Lf8
>                       75.Kg1 (12.886)
>
>13/19  0:00   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Kg4 70.f5 h3+ 71.Kg1 Lb4
>                       72.f6 Kg3 73.Kh1 Lc5 74.f7 Lf8
>                       75.Kg1 h2+ 76.Kh1 (14.848)
>
>14/19  0:00   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Kg4 70.f5 h3+ 71.Kg1 Lb4
>                       72.f6 Kg3 73.Kh1 Lc5 74.f7 Lf8
>                       75.Kg1 Kg4 76.Kh2 (17.770)
>
>15/20  0:00   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Kg4 70.f5 h3+ 71.Kg1 Lb4
>                       72.f6 Kg3 73.Kh1 Lc5 74.f7 Lf8
>                       75.Kg1 Kg4 76.Kh2 Ld6+ 77.Kg1 (21.280)
>
>16/20  0:00   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Kg4 70.f5 h3+ 71.Kg1 Lb4
>                       72.f6 Kg3 73.Kh1 Lc5 74.f7 Lf8
>                       75.Kg1 Kg4 76.Kh2 Ld6+ 77.Kg1 Lc5+
>                       78.Kh1 (25.584)
>
>17/23  0:00   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Kg4 70.f5 h3+ 71.Kg1 Lb4
>                       72.f6 Kg3 73.Kh1 Lc5 74.f7 Lf8
>                       75.Kg1 Kg4 76.Kh2 Kh4 77.Kg1 Lc5+
>                       78.Kh1 (32.061)
>
>18/24  0:00   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Kg4 70.f5 h3+ 71.Kg1 Lb4
>                       72.f6 Kg3 73.Kh1 Lc5 74.f7 Lf8
>                       75.Kg1 Kg4 76.Kh2 Kh4 77.Kg1 Kg3
>                       78.Kh1 (41.018)
>
>19/26  0:00   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Kg4 70.f5 h3+ 71.Kg1 Lb4
>                       72.f6 Kg3 73.Kh1 Lc5 74.f7 Lf8
>                       75.Kg1 Kg4 76.Kf1 Kf5 77.Kf2 Kg6
>                       78.Kg1 Lc5+ 79.Kh2 (54.052)
>
>20/27  0:00   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Kg4 70.f5 h3+ 71.Kg1 Lb4
>                       72.f6 Kg3 73.Kh1 Lc5 74.f7 Lf8
>                       75.Kg1 Kg4 76.Kf1 Kf5 77.Kf2 Kg6
>                       78.Kg1 Kh5 79.Kh2 (69.482)
>
>21/28  0:00   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Kg4 70.f5 h3+ 71.Kg1 Lb4
>                       72.f6 Kg3 73.Kh1 Lc5 74.f7 Lf8
>                       75.Kg1 Kg4 76.Kf1 Kf5 77.Kg1 Kf4
>                       78.Kh2 Kg4 79.Kg1 Lc5+ 80.Kh1 (89.632)
>
>22/28  0:00   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Kg4 70.f5 h3+ 71.Kg1 Lb4
>                       72.f6 Kg3 73.Kh1 Lc5 74.f7 Lf8
>                       75.Kg1 Kg4 76.Kf1 Kf5 77.Kg1 Kf4
>                       78.Kh2 Kg4 79.Kg1 Kg3 80.Kh1 (110.497)
>
>23/33  0:00   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Kg4 70.f5 h3+ 71.Kg1 Lb4
>                       72.f6 Kg3 73.Kh1 Lc5 74.f7 Lf8
>                       75.Kg1 Kg4 76.Kf1 Lb4 77.Kg1 Lc5+
>                       78.Kh1 Lf8 79.Kg1 Kg3 80.Kh1 Kf3
>                       81.Kg1 (231.054)
>
>24/33  0:00   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Kg4 70.f5 h3+ 71.Kg1 Lb4
>                       72.f6 Kg3 73.Kh1 Lc5 74.f7 Lf8
>                       75.Kg1 Kg4 76.Kf1 Lb4 77.Kg1 Lc5+
>                       78.Kh1 Lf8 79.Kg1 Kg3 80.Kh1 Kf3
>                       81.Kg1 Lc5+ (354.621)
>
>25/33  0:00   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Kg4 70.f5 h3+ 71.Kg1 Lb4
>                       72.f6 Kg3 73.Kh1 Lc5 74.f7 Lf8
>                       75.Kg1 Kg4 76.Kf1 Lb4 77.Kg1 Lc5+
>                       78.Kh1 Lf8 79.Kg1 Kg3 80.Kh1 Kf3
>                       81.Kg1 Ke3 (412.896)
>
>26/46  0:03   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Kg4 70.f5 Lg3 71.f6 Ld6
>                       72.f7 Lf8 73.Kh1 Kh3 74.Kg1 Kg3
>                       75.Kh1 Kg4 76.Kh2 Kg5 77.Kg1 Kf5
>                       78.Kh1 Ke6 79.Kh2 Ke7 80.Kh1 Kd8
>                       81.Kg1 Lc5+ (5.786.101) 1853
>
>27/59  0:40   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Lg3 70.Kh3 Kg6
>                       71.Kg2 Kf6 72.f5 Le1 73.Kh2 Ke7
>                       74.Kh1 Lc3 75.Kh2 Le5+ 76.Kg2 Lf6
>                       77.Kh2 Kd8 78.Kg1 Ld4+ 79.Kh1 Kd7
>                       80.Kg2 Lf6 81.Kh2 Le5+ (50.333.489) 1253
>
>28/59  0:47   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Lg3 70.Kh3 Kg6
>                       71.Kg2 Kf6 72.f5 Le1 73.Kh2 Ke7
>                       74.Kh1 Lc3 75.Kh2 Le5+ 76.Kg2 Lf6
>                       77.Kh2 Kd8 78.Kg1 Ld4+ 79.Kh1 Kd7
>                       80.Kg2 Lf6 81.Kh2 Le5+ (59.598.417) 1248
>
>29/59  0:48   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Lg3 70.Kh3 Kg6
>                       71.Kg2 Kf6 72.f5 Le1 73.Kh2 Ke7
>                       74.Kh1 Lc3 75.Kh2 Le5+ 76.Kg2 Lf6
>                       77.Kh2 Kd8 78.Kg1 Ld4+ 79.Kh1 Kd7
>                       80.Kg2 Lf6 81.Kh2 Le5+ (61.789.411) 1264
>
>30/59  0:49   +0.19    68...Le1 69.Kg2 Lg3 70.Kh3 Kg6
>                       71.Kg2 Kf6 72.f5 Le1 73.Kh2 Ke7
>                       74.Kh1 Lc3 75.Kh2 Le5+ 76.Kg2 Lf6
>                       77.Kh2 Kd8 78.Kg1 Ld4+ 79.Kh1 Kd7
>                       80.Kg2 Lf6 81.Kh2 Le5+ (62.979.948) 1277
>
> beste zet: Lb4-e1  tijd: 3:18.860 min  n/s: 1.191.889  CPU 100.0%   n/s(1CPU):
>1.191.889   nodes: 237.000.000



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