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Subject: Re: What is really on the Shredder8 CD

Author: chandler yergin

Date: 22:50:41 12/03/05

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On December 04, 2005 at 00:47:15, Chessfun wrote:

>On December 04, 2005 at 00:29:11, chandler yergin wrote:
>
>>On December 03, 2005 at 21:06:07, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>On December 03, 2005 at 17:53:43, chandler yergin wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 03, 2005 at 08:12:17, Barry Culp wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>What is on the Shredder8 CD is a small number of 3-4 man tablebases
>>>>According to the Shredder 8 Manual:
>>>>"All 5 man EGTB's are on the CD"."Giving perfect play for all 5 piece endings."
>>
>>Your Quote is correct!
What you quoted is correct:
"Only reference I can find to tablebases in the manual is 10.1.
"Tablebases are special endgame databases which allow Shredder 8 to play
five-piece endings perfectly (even find them in the search)"

This is the only Quote I can find too. I agree.

>
>
>That is your quote not mine and I don't think it is correct. Which is why below
>I asked where it is stated in the manual.
>
>
>
>>>>If you Open the CD you find a folder named tb's.
>>>>That's all I know.
>>>>Chan
>>>
>>>Only reference I can find to tablebases in the manual is 10.1.
>>>"Tablebases are special endgame databases which allow Shredder 8 to play
>>>five-piece endings perfectly (even find them in the search)
>>
>>Your Quote is correct!
>>>
>>>Please tell me the item number and page number for your quote?
>>>
>>>Also obviously Shredder 8 is a CD max capacity about 700 Mb and 5 piece
>>>tablebases are 7.05 GB 290 files, So clearly regardless of what is or not
>>>written it is impossible.
>>>
>>>And if you look at your Shredder 8 CD case/box back cover you'll see the
>>>following written.
>>>
>>>"* Endgame Database: Shredder 8 gives you perfect access to the endgame
>>>databases. These contain perfect play information on all three and four piece
>>>endings."
>
>
>You didn't address any of the above three items items?
>
>"Please tell me the item number and page number for your quote?"
>
>"Also obviously Shredder 8 is a CD max capacity about 700 Mb and 5 piece
>tablebases are 7.05 GB 290 files, So clearly regardless of what is or not
>written it is impossible."
>
>"And if you look at your Shredder 8 CD case/box back cover you'll see the
>following written.
>
>"* Endgame Database: Shredder 8 gives you perfect access to the endgame
>databases. These contain perfect play information on all three and four piece
>endings.""
>
>
>>and..
>>If you Open the CD you find a folder named tb's.
>>That's all I know.
>
>You should know more. Because if you open that folder you'll see the same thing
>I do. That the total is only 30 Mb and it's missing some 227 tablebases for a
>complete 5 piece set.
>
>>If you have the CD Open the folder and tell us what's in it.
>>OK?
>
>As I said above since you're the one quoting what's written in the manual you
>should also have the CD and should be able yourself to see what's in the TBs
>folder.
>
>However since for some reason you don't seem to:
>
>"What's in it" is
>Size: 29.9 MB (31,439,476 bytes)
>Size on disc: 30.0 MB (31,500,288 bytes)
>Contains: 63 files 0 folders
>
>So some 227 files missing from a complete set of 5 piece bases.
>
>What did you expect as I said above which you didn't address "Shredder 8 is a CD
>max capacity about 700 Mb and 5 piece tablebases are 7.05 GB 290 files"

I have installed the CD Roms 1-4 and Shredder obviously acesses them.
They are great!

New game
[D]8/6k1/5q2/8/5B2/6KB/8/8 w - - 0 1

New game
Shredder 8: 1) 1.Kf3  -#68/0 [Shredder 8: 2) 1.Bg4  -#68/0 ; Shredder 8: 3)
1.Bg2  -#65/0 ; Shredder 8: 4) 1.Be3  -#64/0 ; Shredder 8: 5) 1.Bf1  -#61/0 ;
Shredder 8: 6) 1.Bd2  -#59/0 ; Shredder 8: 7) 1.Kg4  -#44/0 ; Shredder 8: 8)
1.Bd7  -#28/0 ; Shredder 8: 9) 1.Bb8  -#15/0 ; Shredder 8: 10) 1.Bc8  -#15/0 ;
Shredder 8: 11) 1.Bc7  -#13/0 ; Shredder 8: 12) 1.Bc1  -#12/0 ; Shredder 8: 13)
1.Bg5  -#12/0 ; Shredder 8: 14) 1.Be5  -#12/0 ; Shredder 8: 15) 1.Bd6  -#12/0 ;
Shredder 8: 16) 1.Bf5  -#12/0 ; Shredder 8: 17) 1.Kf2  -#11/0 ; Shredder 8: 18)
1.Be6  -#11/0 ; Shredder 8: 19) 1.Kg2  -#10/0 ; Shredder 8: 20) 1.Bh6+  -#9/0 ;
Shredder 8: 21) 1.Kh2  -#9/0 ]  Line

So I am getting 5 piece End Game eval.
You are right, they are not on the Shredder CD!
So I made a mistake.
When did you make your last one?
;)
CY

Only reference I can find to tablebases in the manual is 10.1.
>>"Tablebases are special endgame databases which allow Shredder 8 to play
>>five-piece endings perfectly (even find them in the search)

>
>Sarah.



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