Author: chandler yergin
Date: 22:50:41 12/03/05
Go up one level in this thread
On December 04, 2005 at 00:47:15, Chessfun wrote: >On December 04, 2005 at 00:29:11, chandler yergin wrote: > >>On December 03, 2005 at 21:06:07, Chessfun wrote: >> >>>On December 03, 2005 at 17:53:43, chandler yergin wrote: >>> >>>>On December 03, 2005 at 08:12:17, Barry Culp wrote: >>>> >>>>>What is on the Shredder8 CD is a small number of 3-4 man tablebases >>>>According to the Shredder 8 Manual: >>>>"All 5 man EGTB's are on the CD"."Giving perfect play for all 5 piece endings." >> >>Your Quote is correct! What you quoted is correct: "Only reference I can find to tablebases in the manual is 10.1. "Tablebases are special endgame databases which allow Shredder 8 to play five-piece endings perfectly (even find them in the search)" This is the only Quote I can find too. I agree. > > >That is your quote not mine and I don't think it is correct. Which is why below >I asked where it is stated in the manual. > > > >>>>If you Open the CD you find a folder named tb's. >>>>That's all I know. >>>>Chan >>> >>>Only reference I can find to tablebases in the manual is 10.1. >>>"Tablebases are special endgame databases which allow Shredder 8 to play >>>five-piece endings perfectly (even find them in the search) >> >>Your Quote is correct! >>> >>>Please tell me the item number and page number for your quote? >>> >>>Also obviously Shredder 8 is a CD max capacity about 700 Mb and 5 piece >>>tablebases are 7.05 GB 290 files, So clearly regardless of what is or not >>>written it is impossible. >>> >>>And if you look at your Shredder 8 CD case/box back cover you'll see the >>>following written. >>> >>>"* Endgame Database: Shredder 8 gives you perfect access to the endgame >>>databases. These contain perfect play information on all three and four piece >>>endings." > > >You didn't address any of the above three items items? > >"Please tell me the item number and page number for your quote?" > >"Also obviously Shredder 8 is a CD max capacity about 700 Mb and 5 piece >tablebases are 7.05 GB 290 files, So clearly regardless of what is or not >written it is impossible." > >"And if you look at your Shredder 8 CD case/box back cover you'll see the >following written. > >"* Endgame Database: Shredder 8 gives you perfect access to the endgame >databases. These contain perfect play information on all three and four piece >endings."" > > >>and.. >>If you Open the CD you find a folder named tb's. >>That's all I know. > >You should know more. Because if you open that folder you'll see the same thing >I do. That the total is only 30 Mb and it's missing some 227 tablebases for a >complete 5 piece set. > >>If you have the CD Open the folder and tell us what's in it. >>OK? > >As I said above since you're the one quoting what's written in the manual you >should also have the CD and should be able yourself to see what's in the TBs >folder. > >However since for some reason you don't seem to: > >"What's in it" is >Size: 29.9 MB (31,439,476 bytes) >Size on disc: 30.0 MB (31,500,288 bytes) >Contains: 63 files 0 folders > >So some 227 files missing from a complete set of 5 piece bases. > >What did you expect as I said above which you didn't address "Shredder 8 is a CD >max capacity about 700 Mb and 5 piece tablebases are 7.05 GB 290 files" I have installed the CD Roms 1-4 and Shredder obviously acesses them. They are great! New game [D]8/6k1/5q2/8/5B2/6KB/8/8 w - - 0 1 New game Shredder 8: 1) 1.Kf3 -#68/0 [Shredder 8: 2) 1.Bg4 -#68/0 ; Shredder 8: 3) 1.Bg2 -#65/0 ; Shredder 8: 4) 1.Be3 -#64/0 ; Shredder 8: 5) 1.Bf1 -#61/0 ; Shredder 8: 6) 1.Bd2 -#59/0 ; Shredder 8: 7) 1.Kg4 -#44/0 ; Shredder 8: 8) 1.Bd7 -#28/0 ; Shredder 8: 9) 1.Bb8 -#15/0 ; Shredder 8: 10) 1.Bc8 -#15/0 ; Shredder 8: 11) 1.Bc7 -#13/0 ; Shredder 8: 12) 1.Bc1 -#12/0 ; Shredder 8: 13) 1.Bg5 -#12/0 ; Shredder 8: 14) 1.Be5 -#12/0 ; Shredder 8: 15) 1.Bd6 -#12/0 ; Shredder 8: 16) 1.Bf5 -#12/0 ; Shredder 8: 17) 1.Kf2 -#11/0 ; Shredder 8: 18) 1.Be6 -#11/0 ; Shredder 8: 19) 1.Kg2 -#10/0 ; Shredder 8: 20) 1.Bh6+ -#9/0 ; Shredder 8: 21) 1.Kh2 -#9/0 ] Line So I am getting 5 piece End Game eval. You are right, they are not on the Shredder CD! So I made a mistake. When did you make your last one? ;) CY Only reference I can find to tablebases in the manual is 10.1. >>"Tablebases are special endgame databases which allow Shredder 8 to play >>five-piece endings perfectly (even find them in the search) > >Sarah.
This page took 0 seconds to execute
Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700
Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.