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Subject: Re: From the Rybka readme file:

Author: Graham Banks

Date: 10:01:46 12/06/05

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On December 06, 2005 at 12:44:50, Günther Simon wrote:

>On December 06, 2005 at 12:20:21, Graham Banks wrote:
>
>>On December 06, 2005 at 10:34:27, Günther Simon wrote:
>>
>>>Greg Simpson:
>>>>>I don't have "such problems" in Winboard, I have a problem with one game out of
>>>>>40 with Rybka, and none out of thousands with Fruit, Toga, Crafty, Ruffian and
>>>>>Zappa.  I don't think the problem is Winboard related.
>>>
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>On December 06, 2005 at 03:05:48, Graham Banks wrote:
>>>>Winboard support: Ditto - not supported. This protocol contradicts my notion of
>>>>what an engine should do.
>>>
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>With all respect Graham this is a nonsense answer
>>>with a nonsensical quote.
>>>
>>>I beta tested Rybka for Vas since > 1.5 years under WB and most
>>>people are aware that Polyglot gives 1:1 support for WB.
>>>(Vas also never saw any reason to complain and was happy about
>>>my bug reports _regarding_ Rybka until today)
>>>If you would follow your reasoning you should never test WB
>>>programs in Chessbase(but you do with the WB2UCI adapter
>>>plus the UCI.dll adapters from CB, which always had
>>>reported dozens of bugs - not even speaking of all other
>>>WB adapters ever created by SMK and CB which were
>>>even buggier), especially your beloved Chessmaster
>>>personalities.
>>>
>>>I never experienced any problems in 1000s of games with
>>>UCI programs using Polyglot in WB. Why do you think
>>>Fabien had created it with the feedback of Leo and me,
>>>if not allowing his Fruit play the best way in WB?
>>>
>>>May be you were confused by either messages from unexperienced
>>>users, or by users reporting problems _on chess servers_?
>>>(Polyglot was never intended to work with chess servers and
>>>AFAIK all problems were timestamp problems or again user
>>>errors)
>>>
>>>Have you even tried to reproduce the problem of Greg in
>>>CB or Arena?
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Guenther
>>
>>
>>Hi Guenther,
>>
>>what I posted was directly from the Rybka readme file. They were not my words.
>>Please don't shoot the messenger,
>>
>>Regards, Graham.
>
>
>Hi Graham, I know of course, but your quote must have had some intention,
>otherwise it would have been useless at all for the _specific_
>problem and question of the original poster.
>It is absolutely clear that you wanted to imply with your quote, that
>the user should _not_ use WB for Rybka and that is nonsense.
>If you don't agree I see no point for your answer at all,
>because it helped Greg not one jota.
>Thus, why had the 'messenger' send an at best irrelevant message? :)
>
>Regards,
>Guenther


No evil intentions at all Guenther. I like Winboard, have used it extensively
and participate actively in the Winboard forum. I thought that the fact that Vas
said that Rybka didn't support the Winboard protocol would be a reason as to why
the poster might be having problems.
Give me a break!

Graham.



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