Author: Pablo Ignacio Restrepo
Date: 14:49:23 12/06/05
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Vasik.
With all respect....
I have been waiting 25 years playing engines, and the problem have not been
solved.
I am feeling, the problem will be living in the engines.............
Why ? ............. becouse, if there are changes to algoritm, engines-fix, wil
be losing against the standard Top engines.
Zappa is an example, exactly same problem in 60+15 time control, 248 moves, a
simple draw, just to 6 moves to de interfase end-down......
Shredder, Junior, Fritz 9 and many other machines are in the same problem
...........
Now ,,,,,,,,many people telling ....this is not chess, this is not a victorie
...bla bla bla .....
Victorie is a victorie ,.,,,,,,and a draw or a lost game when human being could
win, is the wors move(a dark vanitie)
I wonder.......Why Ponomariov did not make a K.O. to Junior ,,,,,,,,? ....??
Where is the solution ?
Best,
Pablo
On December 06, 2005 at 08:58:09, Vasik Rajlich wrote:
>On December 05, 2005 at 19:12:57, Pablo Ignacio Restrepo wrote:
>
>>.................the engine won to me a lot before, but I finally could trap
>>its.
>>A really strong an smart engine
>>Thanks in advance
>>Pablo
>>
>
>This type of draw detection is a tricky problem but don't worry .. we will solve
>it eventually :)
>
>Vas
>
>>
>>
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>>[D]5b2/1p6/1r2p2k/1r1p1p1p/p1pPnPp1/P1P1P1P1/1PR1R2P/4BNK1 w - - 0 109
>>
>>[Event "Partida evaluada, 3m + 0s"]
>>[Site "Sala de máquinas"]
>>[Date "2005.12.05"]
>>[Round "?"]
>>[White "Father"]
>>[Black "Billabong_w2005"]
>>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>>[ECO "A45"]
>>[WhiteElo "1970"]
>>[BlackElo "2570"]
>>[Annotator "Restrepo,Pablo"]
>>[PlyCount "216"]
>>[EventDate "2005.09.04"]
>>[TimeControl "180"]
>>
>>1. d4 {1} Nf6 {0} 2. e3 {0} d5 {0} 3. c3 {0} Bf5 {0} 4. Bd3 {2} Bxd3 {0} 5.
>>Qxd3 {1} Nbd7 {0} 6. f4 {0} e6 {7} 7. Nf3 {-0.26/12 0} Bd6 {6} 8. O-O {
>>-0.20/12 0} O-O {5} 9. Re1 {(b3) -0.19/11 0} c5 {-0.36/10 4} 10. g3 {(b3) 0}
>>Ne4 {-0.40/9 5} 11. Nbd2 {(c4) 1} Ndf6 {-0.44/10 4} 12. Qe2 {(b3) 1} Rc8 {
>>-0.60/10 6} 13. Nxe4 {0} Nxe4 {-0.63/11 1} 14. Nd2 {0} Nf6 {-0.60/11 3} 15. Nf1
>>{(dxc5) 1} Qb6 {-0.75/11 8} 16. Kg2 {(Sd2) 2} Rfd8 {-0.73/10 3} 17. Qd3 {
>>(Sd2) 4} Rd7 {-0.77/10 4} 18. a3 {(Sd2) 1} Qc6 {-0.82/10 5} 19. Kg1 {(Sd2) 2}
>>a5 {-0.87/9 4} 20. Kg2 {(a4) 1} a4 {-0.91/10 3} 21. Kg1 {(Sd2) 1} Qa6 {
>>-1.02/11 3} 22. Qe2 {(Dxa6) 3} Qxe2 {-1.13/12 3} 23. Rxe2 {0} g6 {-1.03/12 4}
>>24. Bd2 {(Sd2) 2} h6 {-1.10/10 2} 25. Be1 {1} g5 {-1.05/11 3} 26. Rg2 {(fxg5) 7
>>} Kh7 {-1.27/11 4} 27. Rd1 {(fxg5) 1} Kg6 {-1.31/9 2} 28. Nd2 {(Te2) 2} Ng4 {
>>-1.31/10 3} 29. Nf1 {(Lf2) 3} Rdd8 {-1.33/9 2} 30. Rd3 {(h3) 1} Nf6 {-1.40/10 3
>>} 31. Rd1 {(h3) 2} Rg8 {-1.40/8 2} 32. Kh1 {(Tc2) 2} Rc6 {-1.49/9 3} 33. Rd3 {
>>(Kg1) 2} c4 {-1.69/9 2} 34. Rdd2 {(Td1) 1} Rb6 {-1.54/9 4} 35. Rde2 {(Tc2) 1}
>>Ra8 {-1.74/10 2} 36. Rc2 {1} g4 {-1.66/11 0} 37. Bd2 {(Tge2) 2} Rb5 {-1.68/10 3
>>} 38. Bc1 {(Te2) 0} Rh8 {-1.56/10 2} 39. Kg1 {(Tg1) 1} Rc8 {-1.55/10 3} 40. Bd2
>>{(Sd2) 1} h5 {-1.66/10 2} 41. Be1 {(Te2) 1} Be7 {-1.69/11 2} 42. Rge2 {1} Rc6 {
>>-1.54/12 2} 43. Rg2 {(Ld2) 0} Rcb6 {-1.86/12 1} 44. Rge2 {(Sd2) 1} Ne4 {
>>-1.87/10 0} 45. Kg2 {3} Rb3 {-1.79/12 0} 46. Kg1 {(h3) 2} Kg7 {-1.85/11 3} 47.
>>Kg2 {1} Kh6 {-1.79/12 0} 48. Kg1 {(h3) 1} Kg6 {-1.78/11 2} 49. Kg2 {(h3) 0} Bd6
>>{-1.79/11 2} 50. Kg1 {(h3) 0} f6 {-1.78/10 1} 51. Kg2 {1} R3b5 {-1.76/11 1} 52.
>>Kg1 {(h3) 0} Kg7 {-1.77/11 2} 53. Kg2 {(Tg2) 0} Kh6 {-1.73/11 1} 54. Kg1 {
>>(Kh1) 0} Kg6 {-1.66/10 1} 55. Kg2 {(h3) 0} Rb3 {-1.73/12 2} 56. Kg1 {(h3) 1}
>>Be7 {-1.77/10 1} 57. Kg2 {(Tg2) 0} Kh6 {-1.73/11 1} 58. Kg1 {(h3) 0} f5 {
>>-1.73/11 1} 59. Kg2 {1} Kg7 {-1.72/12 0} 60. Kg1 {(h3) 0} Kf7 {-1.72/10 1} 61.
>>Kg2 {0} Bf6 {-1.69/12 0} 62. Kg1 {(h4) 2} Kg6 {-1.67/11 2} 63. Kg2 {0} Be7 {
>>-1.67/12 0} 64. Kg1 {(h4) 1} Bd6 {-1.71/11 1} 65. Kg2 {0} R6b5 {-1.67/11 0} 66.
>>Kg1 {(h3) 1} Bf8 {-1.67/11 1} 67. Kg2 {(h4) 0} Kg7 {-1.67/12 1} 68. Kg1 {(h4) 0
>>} Rb6 {-1.68/12 1} 69. Kg2 {(h4) 0} Bd6 {-1.67/11 1} 70. Kg1 {(h4) 1} Be7 {
>>-1.67/11 1} 71. Kg2 {(h4) 0} Kh7 {-1.67/11 1} 72. Kg1 {(h3) 0} Kg6 {-1.67/10 1}
>>73. Kg2 {(h4) 0} R3b5 {-1.67/11 1} 74. Kg1 {(Lf2) 0} Bf8 {-1.69/10 1} 75. Kg2 {
>>(Tg2) 0} Bd6 {-1.67/9 0} 76. Kg1 {(h4) 0} Be7 {-1.67/11 0} 77. Kg2 {(h4) 0} Bf8
>>{-1.67/12 1} 78. Kg1 {(h4) 0} Rb3 {-1.67/11 1} 79. Kg2 {1} Bd6 {-1.68/14 0} 80.
>>Kg1 {(h4) 0} R6b5 {-1.68/12 1} 81. Kg2 {0} Be7 {-1.67/13 1} 82. Kg1 {(h4) 0}
>>Kf7 {-1.68/11 0} 83. Kg2 {0} Ke8 {-1.68/12 0} 84. Kg1 {(h3) 0} Kf8 {-1.68/10 0}
>>85. Kg2 {0} Bd8 {-1.68/14 0} 86. Kg1 {0} Kg7 {-1.67/13 0} 87. Kg2 {0} Be7 {
>>-1.67/13 2} 88. Kg1 {(h4) 0} Bf6 {-1.67/10 0} 89. Kg2 {(h4) 0} Kf8 {-1.68/12 0}
>>90. Kg1 {(h4) 0} Rb6 {-1.67/11 0} 91. Kg2 {(h4) 0} Kg7 {-1.67/10 0} 92. Kg1 {
>>(h4) 0} Bd8 {-1.68/9 0} 93. Kg2 {0} Bc7 {-1.67/14 0} 94. Kg1 {(h4) 0} Bd6 {
>>-1.68/7 0} 95. Kg2 {(h4) 0} R3b5 {-1.67/10 0} 96. Kg1 {(h4) 0} Kg6 {-1.68/10 0}
>>97. Kg2 {(h3) 0} Kh6 {-1.68/10 0} 98. Kg1 {(h4) 0} Be7 {-1.67/10 0} 99. Kg2 {0}
>>Bf8 {-1.67/13 1} 100. Kg1 {(Lf2) 0} Rb3 {-1.67/11 0} 101. Kg2 {(h4) 1} Bd6 {
>>-1.68/11 0} 102. Kg1 {(Lf2) 0} R3b5 {-1.67/10 0} 103. Kg2 {(h4) 1} Be7 {
>>-1.67/11 0} 104. Kg1 {(h4) 1} Kh7 {-1.67/10 0} 105. Kg2 {0} Kg7 {-1.67/15 0}
>>106. Kg1 {(h4) 0} Bd6 {-1.67/8 0} 107. Kg2 {1} Bf8 {-1.67/14 0} 108. Kg1 {
>>(h4) 0} Kh6 {(Lag: Av=0.76s, max=3.8s) -1.67/10 0} 1/2-1/2
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