Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 14:57:56 02/09/06
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On February 09, 2006 at 15:51:44, Tord Romstad wrote: >On February 08, 2006 at 22:17:11, Will Singleton wrote: > >>Uh huh. It might have long been clear to you, but was that before Fruit or >>after? I recall when Ruffian came out, people could scarcely believe its >>strength. No one, folks said, could develop such a strong amateur program in >>relative secrecy, and then just burst on the scene. But Ruffian never >>approached commercial strength. >> >>And then came Fruit. Not an evolutionary change, not forseen, not anticipated. >>One day the commercials ruled, then Fruit came out. That was the change. Only >>after that did programs begin to "surpass the old giants." I'm not criticizing, >>only pointing out that the change was sudden, not evolutionary, and no one >>predicted it. > >You have been around longer than I, but I will persist in claiming that the >change >has been evolutionary in nature. The progress has not been completely linear, >and you are probably right that it has accelerated in the last couple of years, >but >the rate of improvement was remarkably high long before Fruit appeared (the >first really strong version of Fruit 2.0, which is only about one year old). >Just >look at the results from the first few editions of WBEC and compare them to the >results from the last couple of years and see for yourself. I ran a couple fairly large chess program contests in 1999-2000 (Battle of the Crowns) and 2000-2002 (The Gauntlett -- unfortunately, my main machine died so that one never completed). Anyway, many of the programs that were in the top groups in those contests would be in groups 2 and 3 of Leo's contests. Here are BOTC results (Amy was the 4th strongest engine of all freely available): 1 LGoliath 2 Crafty 3 AnMon 4 Amy 5 SOS 6 Bringer 7 TCBishop 8 Phalanx 9 Comet 10 Gromit3 Here are Gauntlet results (Amy was the 8th strongest engine of all freely available): 1 Crafty-18.10 2 Yace 0.99.50 3 LG2000V3 4 Comet-B37 5 ZChess-222 6 TCBishop-4601 7 MAD-005 8 Amy-07 9 Phalanx-xxii 10 AnMon-510 In WBEC, Phalanx is #65, and in my old contests it is listed as #8 or #9. Comet B.68 is #40 on WBEC. In AEGT, Phalanx is #119 and Comet B.54 is #67 In Lyapko's list, Comet is #45 and Phalanx is #38
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