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Subject: Re: little march tournament

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 00:31:29 03/07/06

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On March 06, 2006 at 16:39:47, Gerd Isenberg wrote:

>Thought i missed some game of Kara ben Nemsi against Hadschi Alef Omar, most
>likely a king's gambit, which Kara would have won of course in a most heroic way
>;-)

:-))

>Yes, very archaic.
>
>During my childhood i was also a Karl May enthusiast. But the books had other
>cover paintings.

i do not know exactly if these covers were ever used. maybe only in a special
edition of Karl May books.
Sascha Schneider was a painter (i think he was homosexual, therefore he has so
many naked males on it :-)) and karl may was (as far as i remember) interested
in him because the paintings had something he liked.

I guess he liked the dramatic manichaeistic DARK/LIGHT <=> good/evil contrast in
the books that would have fit to the stories.

So schneider got the job to do the illustrations.

Here i found something about Karl May and Sascha Schneider and Karl May and
Artists in general:

http://www.karl-may-stiftung.de/kunst.html



>Are those somehow archaic Sascha Schneider paintings from
>original editions?

it seems (the link i gave above says so) that there was a special edition of
karl may books with sascha schneider paintings as cover.
they were friends.


>Today my impression is a bit master race attitude - somehow zeitgeist of that
>age.


Karl May changed his attitude, you maybe don't know.
when the century changed he changed the contents and the target of his books.
in the books before 1900 i was also able to recognize this
master race attitude, imperialistic, colonialistic, sexistic, chauvinistic
passages.

but suddenly after 1900 the books and the characters in his books changed !
suddenly karl may gave up all these attitudes.
old shatterhand and winnetour gave away their weapons, so did kara ben nemsi and
other characters. may was suddenly on the search for peace-movement and
womens-lib. he suddenly was in dialogue with Bertha von Suttner and wrote his
very difficult to read late-books such as: Et in Terra Pax, Am Jenseits,
Ardistan und Dschinnistan, Im Reiche des silbernen Löwen Teil 3+4 (teil 1+2 was
the old style!! and content), Weihnacht, Winnetous Erben (=Winnetou 4), Mein
Leben und Streben (Autobiographie), Lichte Höhen (Gedichtband), ...

these books show a different May. It seems may changed from the motherson to a
fatherson. it seems he got a father after 1900.

in Im Reiche des silbernen Löwen he lets his father appear, and the son forgives
the father and vice versa. it seems this was a very important
content, due to the fact that mays father was an asshole father and may had due
to this and other circumstances a very dark childhood.

But in the later books he found a way out !
and therefore the books are very "strange" related with the many books he wrote
before 1900.



> How was May's and Schneider's standing during third reich?

May died 1912. And Schneider before hitler came to power.
they had nothing to do with third reich.

Hitler tried to misuse mays books.
but i doubt that this worked. Karl May came on the index in the GDR.
until today the Karl May Verlag is not fullfilling the testament of Karl May.
he wanted to give the money from his books to young writers, to make sure no
writer has to suffer in poverty and has to have a dark youth like he had.
but the karl may verlag is not acting in the will of karl may, instead he is
selling his books in a changed way and making money out of it.
There were other people trying to bring the books out in the ORIGINAL text
version. but they always got trouble with Karl May Verlag.
Business tries to overrule justice and order.

the original edition of may books has as much to do with karl may as the
original bible has to to with what jesus said.
its a forgery.

Especially in the 3rd reich the books were manipulated.
Mays second wife Klara, lived until 1944 and what she did with mays books (when
he was dead) is not acceptable.

if you want to read the original may books, and understand especially the later
books, you would have to read the historisch-kritische Edition of may books.

I doubt that May would have liked the nazis. May was in his latest years an
active pacifist. he liked the idea that there is only ONE god and we are all his
creatures and neither race nor religion could change this.
he wrote AGAINST colonialism and german imperialism and had the idea that the
chinese culture or the indian culture is much higher then ours, so i doubt he
would have accepted the ideology of the nazis.




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