Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 08:42:21 05/24/02
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On May 24, 2002 at 08:31:59, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >Thanks. > >We have two open issues. > >1. My question about the first game in '97. Why Kasparov couldn't repeat his >dominating play against DB2? Was a general question about the apparent twist in >the match after the first game. BTW the mistakes of the machine were widely >analyzed and "accepted", as far as game 1 is concerned. Could you comment on the >mistakes, the twist and their reasons? > I still don't understand the question. Kasparov won game one, in what I consider to be a _very_ lucky manner. He lost an exchange. He just happened to end up with a couple of passed pawns that were not stoppable over time. I am not sure he planned on that happening, but it did. He didn't try to repeat game one again. In game two the colors were switched. In game 3 he tried a different opening. So I don't know what you mean by "why kasparov couldn't repeat his dominating play against DB2?" I don't see where he tried... >2. The Eduard Nemeth bet. Ok, fine. I talked to him via chat and he says he >wants 30 minutes games. But since he hasn't really understood yet our debate >here, he tought that it was a challenge from your side out of the blue, and his >first question was "how much money for each point". Well, I promissed him 200 ? >(euro) from _my_ side, but explained that 10 game only wouldn't be enough, it >should be about 20 or 30 games overall. Could you please comment a little bit >from your knowledge about similar "bets" on ICC and the probable outcome? I mean >would you say that GM Roman would win 1 pt. pro 10 games trivially or is that >already difficult for him in 30' games? Roman would _definitely_ win one of every 10 games. Against _any_ program. And that would be a lower bound. I would suspect he would win at least 4 and perhaps do better depending on how well his opponent was able to avoid the kinds of positions Roman is good at setting up. > >Another technical problem was for Eduard, who never played on ICC, that he >thinks he could only play on the new FRITZ server. Well, what is your opinion to >the technical problems. Could it be made possible to connect the two servers for >the little event? Or would you also say, what I have told Eduard, that the two >servers are probably similar for the players. Ahm, I remember, Fritz server has >a direct connection between the players, where you know exactly how long the >delay and stuff like this. Please give us your judgement, it could be >interesting for many potential players from Europe. He can easily download a windows version of winboard, install it, and connect to ICC instantly. It is very easy to set up and run. There are other ICC clients as well... zics, blitzen, you-name-it... He can log in as a guest to avoid joining, or he could do the free-week deal with no cost... > >And to the chess results, would you mind giving a border line, Eduard in your >opinion could not overstep, e.g. 2 pts. or something? Final question, and please >just for the German player who gives so much heart blood into computerchess, >what could be the prospects for someone like Eduard (understood that he might >even win 3 pts/10 games) in the world of CC? > >Thanks a lot for your answers > >Rolf Tueschen What is Edward's FIDE (or equivalent) rating? If he is (say) 2150, then I would be surprised if he won two games, or if he drew four. Or any combination to produce 2 points in 10 games. I don't think computers are "magic" in any way. But a 2100-level player, while able to win a game here and there, is going to be hard-pressed to win a single game against a reasonable computer opponent. I am, of course, curious whether he can actually do so or not, from an academic point of view...
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