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Subject: Re: FRC_TheBaron_101 Vs Fritz8 (Castling vs Not Castling rules)

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 11:41:00 06/24/03

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On June 24, 2003 at 13:30:11, Uri Blass wrote:

>On June 24, 2003 at 13:07:17, Sune Fischer wrote:
>
>>On June 24, 2003 at 12:07:43, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>
>>>On June 24, 2003 at 11:23:56, Sune Fischer wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 24, 2003 at 11:07:38, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>But nevermind the titles, that's just boring hairsplitting anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think FRC is increasing its popularity, also now with the Leko-Svidler match,
>>>>>>and I like it because it solves some problems (book problems!)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I do not think that the book problem is very important and top programs can do
>>>>>well even without opening book.
>>>>
>>>>It is possible you are mistaken about that.
>>>>I certainly know my engine has lost games because of bad opening lines.
>>>>
>>>>>If you want to solve book problems than shuffle chess is enough and you do not
>>>>>need FRC.
>>>>
>>>>You can, and it is better than nothing I guess. But as a chessplayer myself I
>>>>must say that shuffle doesn't appeal to me at all, that's like a kids game. You
>>>>also see the superGMs play FRC and not shuffle.
>>>
>>>Those superGMs do whatever they get paid for.
>>
>>Yeah, even classic chess.
>
>It seems that you assume that people tend to prefer FRC when no money is
>involved.
>I think that you are wrong here.
>
>The rules of castling of FRC do not seem natural.
>This is also the opinion of other people.

Yes, mine for example.
Of course I do not have problems to understand the rules but children and hobby
players might have.
I would prefer rules which are based on this:

[D] 4k2r/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/4K2R w Kk - 0 1

(Long castle only allowed if second Rook is on a1, and not on b1,c1 or d1)

or this position:

[D] r3k2r/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R3K2R w Kk - 0 1

and not on this position:

[D] 4k3/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/4K3 w - - 0 1

I am also not strictly against start positions with two same coloured bishops,
because that would certainly lead to very sharp and interesting play.

Certainly I would accept whatever the majority of Chessplayers prefers.
I just do not think that the majority is happy with those rules.
AFAIK nobody has asked the Chessplayers. A poll supported by the national Chess
Federations for example.

Michael

>
>I believe that more people are going to prefer classic chess and not FRC
>when the money is the same.
>
>Uri



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