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Subject: Re: FRC_TheBaron_101 Vs Fritz8 (Castling vs Not Castling rules)

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 11:46:24 06/24/03

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On June 24, 2003 at 14:41:00, Drexel,Michael wrote:

>On June 24, 2003 at 13:30:11, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On June 24, 2003 at 13:07:17, Sune Fischer wrote:
>>
>>>On June 24, 2003 at 12:07:43, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 24, 2003 at 11:23:56, Sune Fischer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 24, 2003 at 11:07:38, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>But nevermind the titles, that's just boring hairsplitting anyway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think FRC is increasing its popularity, also now with the Leko-Svidler match,
>>>>>>>and I like it because it solves some problems (book problems!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I do not think that the book problem is very important and top programs can do
>>>>>>well even without opening book.
>>>>>
>>>>>It is possible you are mistaken about that.
>>>>>I certainly know my engine has lost games because of bad opening lines.
>>>>>
>>>>>>If you want to solve book problems than shuffle chess is enough and you do not
>>>>>>need FRC.
>>>>>
>>>>>You can, and it is better than nothing I guess. But as a chessplayer myself I
>>>>>must say that shuffle doesn't appeal to me at all, that's like a kids game. You
>>>>>also see the superGMs play FRC and not shuffle.
>>>>
>>>>Those superGMs do whatever they get paid for.
>>>
>>>Yeah, even classic chess.
>>
>>It seems that you assume that people tend to prefer FRC when no money is
>>involved.
>>I think that you are wrong here.
>>
>>The rules of castling of FRC do not seem natural.
>>This is also the opinion of other people.
>
>Yes, mine for example.
>Of course I do not have problems to understand the rules but children and hobby
>players might have.
>I would prefer rules which are based on this:
>
>[D] 4k2r/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/4K2R w Kk - 0 1
>
>(Long castle only allowed if second Rook is on a1, and not on b1,c1 or d1)
>
>or this position:
>
>[D] r3k2r/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R3K2R w Kk - 0 1
>
>and not on this position:
>
>[D] 4k3/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/4K3 w - - 0 1

Sorry, the Kings are wrong here of course.

>
>I am also not strictly against start positions with two same coloured bishops,
>because that would certainly lead to very sharp and interesting play.
>
>Certainly I would accept whatever the majority of Chessplayers prefers.
>I just do not think that the majority is happy with those rules.
>AFAIK nobody has asked the Chessplayers. A poll supported by the national Chess
>Federations for example.
>
>Michael
>
>>
>>I believe that more people are going to prefer classic chess and not FRC
>>when the money is the same.
>>
>>Uri



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