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Subject: Re: Shredder wins in Graz after controversy

Author: Omid David Tabibi

Date: 11:57:50 12/09/03

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On December 09, 2003 at 10:51:46, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:

>On December 09, 2003 at 10:34:40, Steffen Jakob wrote:
>
>>Hi Uli!
>>
>>On December 09, 2003 at 10:27:19, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:
>>
>>>On December 09, 2003 at 10:16:30, José Carlos wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 09, 2003 at 10:09:33, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 09, 2003 at 10:05:05, K. Burcham wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>GCP, are you saying that the program Jonny, and the operator of Jonny did not
>>>>>>know about the repetition until informed by Mr. Z?
>>>>>>are you saying that the program Jonny also could not detect the position had
>>>>>>been played for the third time?
>>>>>
>>>>>Mr Zwanzer = Jonny programmer = Jonny operator
>>>>>
>>>>>Jonny did not know that a 3 fold repetition is a draw.
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>GCP
>>>>
>>>>  The software playing under the name Jonny did know. If what the GUI says is
>>>>ignored then don't let Jonny play under that GUI. Don't keep repeating that
>>>>nonsense about the engine vs the GUI. One player, one playing unit, that's it.
>>>
>>>I think that combining a private engine with a commercial GUI on occasions like
>>>this is very debatable.
>>>It was a big case that one of the programs was suspected to use source code of
>>>another one. Why should use of foreign code in binary form be acceptable ?
>>
>>Although I usually work with xbard under Linux I also used the Fritz GUI in
>>Graz. The reason was that xboard does not support the time control which was
>>used in Graz (remaining time 30 minutes). Of course one could do it with
>>xboard/winboard by overruling the commands from the GUI (actually Thomas Mayer
>>did it). But on the other hand I don´t think that using the Fritz GUI gave me an
>>advantage (I didnt use book learning e.g. and disabled the tablebase usage of
>>the GUI). If you say that it should forbidden to use foreign code in binary form
>>like this, then why do you only mention commercial GUIs? Why would you allow
>>e.g. winboard?
>
>I wouldn't allow it.
>On tourneys, I like to use my own simple text GUI, supporting operator time,
>clock adjustment, producing a loud noise to wake you up after moving, ...
>
>However, on ipcc in Paderborn for instance, the organizers like to publish the
>games online in web. This is more comfortably done using the Fritz GUI, which
>can be configured to update a pgn file after each move. But I guess that the
>athmosphere on ipcc is far more relaxed than on wmcc ?
>

I can't speak for paderborn, but in Graz the atmosphere was very relaxed and
enjoyable (unlike the impression reading the forum here would make).


>
>
>Uli
>
>>
>>Greetings,
>>Steffen.



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