Author: Ed Schröder
Date: 04:31:32 02/19/99
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>Posted by Harald Faber on February 19, 1999 at 05:51:34: >>What's wrong with Shredder? >> >>Any input would be nice and really welcome. Does it play weak chess? (Did you >>really play games or just run some tests?) Do you want it to solve test >>positions or play games? Do you rather have a blitz monster that plays >strong at >>3min/game on a Pentium 100 or do you rather have something for longer >>timecontrols and analysis? Do you hate the GUI? What's missing? >> >>I would really love to get some feedback. >> >>Stefan (author of Shredder) > >OK, just my 2 cents what misses or does not satisfy: >1) the prize :-) > Maybe I am known for critics in that direction but I can't see to justify >double prize as Fritz/Junior/Nimzo99 and Rebel. Probably they are even >stronger and offer many needful features. > I know that you are not the only one trying to keep the prize high but >considering the above named competitors it is hard to argue in favour of >Shredder. > For me the only superior property i Shredder is the GUI. It is the best > Windows-GUI (I know that MCS has come close). >2) no flexible time per move > I couldn't and can't believe it: there is only a fixed time per move, no > flexible. >3) strength > We can discuss if I will ever beat Shredder1-3 but one always wants the >best program to get the best analysis (e.g.) > Shredder has/had some highlights of course, but all in all I think it is a >bit behind. Maybe Sherdder can compete with other programs, I don't know, but > at the moment I am running a match against Hiarcs7 which doesn't look well >although Shredder has a speed advantage of 50%. So far: > Hiarcs7: 11.0, Shredder3: 7.0 > (Shredder on K6-200/24+8MB hash, Hiarcs7 on MMX166/47MB hash, >40/120+rest/60) IMO Shredder is the most under-rated chess program I know off. I don't understand its low rating on SSDF. Keep in mind Shredder 2 won the CCL competition. Also Shredder is a true W95/98/NT application. I really don't understand why it gets so less attention. It's a great program. Ed Schroder >What really pleases is, as I mentioned above, the real true Windows GUI and >the autoplayer within Shredder. Exemplary! >BTW is it a bug that I can't load the next/previous game via the >button/icon? It >worked well in Shredder2 but now I have to load the games again with CTRL-L >although I don't need to select a database, directly I get the game list. > >And, finally, I hope it didn't disturb you too much to lose against P.ConNers >while I said in the middlegame that black had the better position. Maybe I was >wrong. :-) Or Shredder patzte. ;-)
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