Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 12:20:08 09/06/05
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On September 06, 2005 at 02:23:02, Madhavan wrote: >On September 05, 2005 at 16:46:55, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On September 05, 2005 at 01:24:56, Sandro Necchi wrote: >> >>>It seems you forget one thing: >>> >>>with so many products available the customers can and want to chose what they >>>like, so it is not time anymore to impose a product, but to find out what people >>>want and make that available. >>> >>>So, do you call hypocrites givin good suggestions? >>> >>>Pls. make up your minds before insulting people that like giving good >>>suggestions. >>> >>>Sandro >> >>Stefan and you should conclude that from commercial viewpoint your UCI idea has >>failed for shredder classic sales. > >How do you know? > >>Probably within a few weeks after release i outsell shredder classic sales (with >>either diep3d or zappa, whatever releases first). > > >WOW!It's against other commerical program,can the DIEP get the offer from >chessbase? >DIEP can't get any offer from chessbase doesn't mean Chessbase sucks > >>So being 'compatible' with fritz didn't bring much cash in the pocket for >>shredder, if a new product like diep3d, within a few weeks can sell more >>copies. > >Shredder sold by shredderclassic and from chessbase sure had a lot of cash. > >Chessmaster 8000 doesn't have direct UCI,It supports only Xboard.I'm a bit >surprised by Chessmaster's popularity among the customers I guess that less than 1 in 100,000 ChessMaster owners even know what Xboard or Winboard is. Literally. I guess that less than 1000 people play ChessMaster under Winboard (I include myself in that full list.) >>The conclusion is obvious that the average person who has no idea about >>protocols, they just care for results. If Fritz can each new version have new >>'bugs' in the GUI that just lose you points, then the customer dislikes buying >>your product "because it sucks". > > >Fritz sold from Viva media was very demanding. > >>If then a few nerds who reacted here that you should simply do and eat what >>chessbase is doing, then GCP has all right to call them Hypocrites. > >you can criticise all you want.Lets see how your GUI gets feedback from the >customers > >You need commercial popularity,Vincent and not convincing only CCC people.There >are very less members here anyway. >I agree with your idea that engine should be released as a stand alone and >should not support any protocol,that's what Johan did. > >Get the contract from UBISOft or EA sports > >>It is time for you and Stefan to draw conclusions with respect to being >>compatible and running under Fritz IMHO, instead of criticizing a decision, that >>in diep3d we can load uci engines, without trying to cripple engines from other >>programmers. > >I have never even heard of DIEP 3d GUI,Let's see whatits made of > >>You can keep of course your eyes closed forever, but to quote GCP in a >>conversation i once had: >>1 producent == interface monopolie == engine programmeurs de kneus >>translation: (1 company == interface monopoly == engine programmers get dicked) >> >>Actively supporting that monopoly i definitely underline the opinion from GCP. >> >>Vincent
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