Author: Paulo Cesar Soares
Date: 21:49:43 03/06/06
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On March 06, 2006 at 07:09:18, Uri Blass wrote: >On March 06, 2006 at 02:30:27, Kurt Utzinger wrote: > >>On March 06, 2006 at 02:17:43, Jouni Uski wrote: >> >>>I read here, that You don't have Fritz 9! Why? I think it still is the >>>best program for long analysis. E.g. Rybka beta is far behind and even >>>Hiarcs 10 is not quite as good. So what's your reason? Is it the short >>>main line may be? I am just curious. What is the best engine then for long >>>analysis? >>> >>>Jouni >> >> There is no need to have all engines. Much more important >> is how to use computer programs most efficiently for analysis >> purposes ... and here, it's wrong or at least not successful >> to start engine X and waiting some hours for good moves. Uri >> is a strong correspondence player who knows how to work with >> computer programs and he perhaps can easily do without Fritz 9. >> And furthermore: short main line is no disadvantage because >> you can't trust what engines show after the third half move. >> Best regards >> Kurt > >I partly disagree. > >More engines of course can be an advantage and also long analysis can be an >advantage but I believe that fritz9 is not the best engine for analysis and I do >not need all engines. > >I think fruit is not worse than fritz9 for analysis. >I also think that not having long line is not a big disadvantage(but it is a >disadvantage). > >I do not use engines only for long analysis but most of the computer time that I >use is long analysis. > >Uri Fritz9 arrived !!! I seemed a child playing with him. I made some tests and, at first, I found Fritz9 very strong in endgames. I made a test for correspondence chess that doesn't almost mean anything, I was just curious. I chose the Nolot test and I made the engines analyses with MV=3 (showing at the same time the analysis of three moves), and I only gave 2min for each engine, because I didn't have time. Fritz 9 GUI, PIV2.4 single processor, HT=200Mb. Fruit2.2.1 and Rybka 13D, got to found the good move among the three moves, in 4 tests, and Fritz9 in 6 tests, independent of the place. I also know that in correspondence chess most of the lines are posicional, and I made a tactical test. Nolot Test: r3qb1k/1b4p1/p2pr2p/3n4/Pnp1N1N1/6RP/1B3PP1/1B1QR1K1 w - - bm Nxh6; id "Position 1"; r4rk1/pp1n1p1p/1nqP2p1/2b1P1B1/4NQ2/1B3P2/PP2K2P/2R5 w - - bm Rxc5; id "Position 2"; r2qk2r/ppp1b1pp/2n1p3/3pP1n1/3P2b1/2PB1NN1/PP4PP/R1BQK2R w KQkq - bm Nxg5; id "Position 3"; r1b1kb1r/1p1n1ppp/p2ppn2/6BB/2qNP3/2N5/PPP2PPP/R2Q1RK1 w kq - bm Nxe6; id "Position 4"; r2qrb1k/1p1b2p1/p2ppn1p/8/3NP3/1BN5/PPP3QP/1K3RR1 w - - bm e5; id "Position 5"; rnbqk2r/1p3ppp/p7/1NpPp3/QPP1P1n1/P4N2/4KbPP/R1B2B1R b kq - bm axb5; id "Position 6"; 1r1bk2r/2R2ppp/p3p3/1b2P2q/4QP2/4N3/1B4PP/3R2K1 w k - bm Rxd8+; id "Position 7"; r3rbk1/ppq2ppp/2b1pB2/8/6Q1/1P1B3P/P1P2PP1/R2R2K1 w - - bm Bxh7+; id "Position 8"; r4r1k/4bppb/2n1p2p/p1n1P3/1p1p1BNP/3P1NP1/qP2QPB1/2RR2K1 w - - bm Ng5; id "Position 9"; r1b2rk1/1p1nbppp/pq1p4/3B4/P2NP3/2N1p3/1PP3PP/R2Q1R1K w - - bm Rxf7; id "Position 10"; r1b3k1/p2p1nP1/2pqr1Rp/1p2p2P/2B1PnQ1/1P6/P1PP4/1K4R1 w - - bm Rxh6; id "Position 11";
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