Author: Jouni Uski
Date: 00:09:27 06/30/99
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On June 30, 1999 at 02:50:07, blass uri wrote: > >On June 29, 1999 at 23:38:03, Robert Hyatt wrote: > ><snipped> >>1. I have _always_ said shredder is strong. I had several arguments about >>ranking commercial programs back in the r.g.c.c days, because I always ranked >>shredder high after Jakarta. I never changed my opinion. >> >>2. I said "a micro doesn't stand a chance in hell of winning a tournament >>with all the 'big iron' programs in it. I included in that list of 'big iron' >>programs the likes of deep blue, Cray Blitz, Cilk, and so forth. Two of the >>strongest big iron programs weren't there. Shredder did well. But based >>purely on statistics I would not bet on it if we had the same tournament with >>the same programs. Because I can think of at least one program that I am >>certain is better that played in Paderborn. > > >How can you be certain about it? What's Ferret rating at ICC? After WCCC I think, that Ferret is not better than commercial ones. E.g. it need improvement in endgames. Also it was helpless against Waganian with white pieces. Jouni > >I guess that you mean to Ferret. > >Did Ferret play many games against the same version of shredder that played in >WCCC at tournament time control? > > > But Shredder certainly deserved >>the trophy and praise for winning because it is _not_ easy. >> >>If you want to write the 'big iron' guys off, feel free to do so. But _never_ >>turn your back on them... they are _extremely_ dangerous. To any micro program >>in existance... > >I believe that they are more dangerous at fast time control than at tournament >time control. > >Shredder played 4 games against the big irons and did 2 wins against Fritz and >Junior and 2 draws against Ferret. > >Uri
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