Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 07:35:53 06/30/99
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On June 30, 1999 at 03:09:27, Jouni Uski wrote: >On June 30, 1999 at 02:50:07, blass uri wrote: > >> >>On June 29, 1999 at 23:38:03, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >><snipped> >>>1. I have _always_ said shredder is strong. I had several arguments about >>>ranking commercial programs back in the r.g.c.c days, because I always ranked >>>shredder high after Jakarta. I never changed my opinion. >>> >>>2. I said "a micro doesn't stand a chance in hell of winning a tournament >>>with all the 'big iron' programs in it. I included in that list of 'big iron' >>>programs the likes of deep blue, Cray Blitz, Cilk, and so forth. Two of the >>>strongest big iron programs weren't there. Shredder did well. But based >>>purely on statistics I would not bet on it if we had the same tournament with >>>the same programs. Because I can think of at least one program that I am >>>certain is better that played in Paderborn. >> >> >>How can you be certain about it? > >What's Ferret rating at ICC? After WCCC I think, that Ferret is not better than >commercial ones. E.g. it need improvement in endgames. Also it was helpless >against Waganian with white pieces. > >Jouni > > > easy.. Ferret is generally at the top of all rating classes on ICC. It is not at present because it is inactive. but its standard rating is way over 2700, it's blitz rating over 3100. You won't find many commercial programs on ICC that can win 1 of every 3 games, at least for all the games I have watched... And wasn't "rebel" quite helpless against Rohde with the white pieces? That happens. >> >>I guess that you mean to Ferret. >> >>Did Ferret play many games against the same version of shredder that played in >>WCCC at tournament time control? >> >> >> But Shredder certainly deserved >>>the trophy and praise for winning because it is _not_ easy. >>> >>>If you want to write the 'big iron' guys off, feel free to do so. But _never_ >>>turn your back on them... they are _extremely_ dangerous. To any micro program >>>in existance... >> >>I believe that they are more dangerous at fast time control than at tournament >>time control. >> >>Shredder played 4 games against the big irons and did 2 wins against Fritz and >>Junior and 2 draws against Ferret. >> >>Uri
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