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Subject: Re: Another example :)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 15:56:58 12/10/03

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On December 10, 2003 at 18:40:02, Amir Ban wrote:

>On December 10, 2003 at 18:20:48, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On December 10, 2003 at 17:41:49, Amir Ban wrote:
>>
>>>On December 10, 2003 at 10:14:18, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 10, 2003 at 09:23:38, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 10, 2003 at 09:19:15, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Who set up such a rule?  The rules I have always used for computer chess
>>>>>>simply say that backing up, correcting the error, and playing on from there
>>>>>>is the _right_ decision.  Why would a speed chess tournament suddenly make
>>>>>>operator errors fatal???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If it is true, it is about the lousiest rule I have heard of...
>>>>>
>>>>>Time is critical in the blitz games, and how are you going to
>>>>>'correct' the time Junior lost because of my mistake?
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>GCP
>>>>
>>>>Usually a program knows how much time it used per move and records that
>>>>in the game history.  We did this _many_ times in Cray Blitz and when I
>>>>typed "reset 31" and "display clock" we would see _exactly_ what the clock
>>>>times were at that point in the game...
>>>
>>>Nobody cares what your internal clock shows in the blitz.
>>>
>>>The WCCC blitz tournament is organized pandemonium played for fun. You get 7
>>>minutes on a mechanical clock and you need to figure how much time to give your
>>>program, play fast and make few mistakes. The "one hand" rule is enforced,
>>>pieces get thrown on the floor, and clocks are in danger of being banged to
>>>pieces.
>>>
>>>It is not meant to be a serious test of the programs. The fast operators
>>>(notoriusly including Erdogan Gunes and Alex Kure) may win several points for
>>>their program.
>>>
>>>Amir
>>
>>
>>Now wouldn't an automatic interface tournament make _that_ more pleasant?
>>
>
>It would be as thrilling as this engine match running on my nearby computer
>*YAWN*.
>
>Amir
>
>

Then let the operators have their _own_ blitz event.  Since they are
greatly influencing the outcome anyway.

Is program X the _real_ world blitz champion?  Or is it program X + operator
Y?  I never see _that_ on a box top.


>>Another point for such a change.
>>
>>Not that it will be done, of course.



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