Author: Fernando Villegas
Date: 18:56:23 09/05/05
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On September 05, 2005 at 21:38:04, Zheng Zhixian wrote: >On September 05, 2005 at 18:47:24, Fernando Villegas wrote: > >>What is suitable for me, let me to decide. >>Respect the rest, I do not understand the degree of agresivity of your post. My >>only point has been I like new guis in new products. I am not in war with >>nobody. > >Neither am I. I just notice your fustration (which you usually mask with humor >), that people on this forum are generally interested in things like running >engine versus engine matches, running chess problems through their engines, >while you are not. How dare they fill this forum with such trash! No my friend, not an atom of bad feelings about that. The things amazes me a bit, but it does not frustrate me. > >And worse most of them don't care about dedicated units! > >So I wonder that instead of trying to command the tide to fall, ou might be >happier elsewhere. Just a thought. > >>If someone like to play engines and for that need this or that, for me is >>somewhat weird, but well, anyone have the right to get his kicks the best he >>can. > >Weird to you yes. But in this forum, given that you are in the vast minority who >enjoys playing computers just for fun (no attempt even to 'cheat' using >anticomputer techniques'!), you might also be considered the weird one here. :) Probably so. But, you know, as the saying says, half the world laugh of the other half. same with the weird thing.... > >I do concede that from the view point of a normal chess player, the obessions of >people here do seem weird. The drive for stronger and stronger engines even >though the existing ones are plenty strong for example. The lack of interest in >playing against the computers or even trying to improve their own chess ability > >But then again, this isn't a normal forum for just chessplayers! The origins of >computer chess has always being grounded on interest in the performance of AI. >To mock people in a computer chess forum with such interests seems unfair. No. I do not mock of nobody. The only systematic target of my mockery is me, myself. I just always try to perform a soft, not personal humor. > >>So I do not care if Zappa comes or not with a facility to play engines Vs >>engines, But I would care if in order to satisfy that demand zappa would come as >>a stand alone engine, ready to be plugged to the eternal CB o Arena gui. >>So Zappa with or without UCi is not my business, but Zappa alone to play as UCI >>in another gui IS my business. > >Well surely you agree that even for those asking for UCI implementation, they >are not against a new GUI (whose existence is already assured), so their wishes >do not run counter to yours. Of course not, as I said. > >But that's just dodging the issue. > >Correct me if I'm wrong, but you do seem bitter that the rise of Winboard/UCI >means that it is now possible that engines can be shipped without GUI correct? > >If you had a time travelling machine, you would go back in time and wipe out the >people who came with these ideas to ensure that they never existed :) Neither this. I just hope to see new guis, that´s all. > >>Why? >>I told before. Because a pretty new gui approach the user to the experience of a >>dedicated unit, at last for a time. Don't you like novelties? > >In somethings yes. But from the view point of computer chess, where the main >focus has generally being on improving chess strenght, no. The GUI is incidental >most of the time. Not for me. I am tempted to say the engine is the incidental part because any of them defeat me badly... Well, my very bst Fernando
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