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Subject: Re: About Playing Strength

Author: Sune Larsson

Date: 07:33:42 11/28/05

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On November 28, 2005 at 10:17:22, Albert Silver wrote:

>On November 28, 2005 at 09:22:54, Sune Larsson wrote:
>
>>On November 28, 2005 at 09:01:53, Steve B wrote:
>>
>>>>if you're looking for someone to hang, you've got the wrong guy. There's room
>>>>for everyone, and I'm certainly no saint either. Peace.
>>>
>>>and it should be noted that you are one of the strongest rated Fide members here
>>>to grace these pages
>>>
>>>http://www.fide.com/ratings/card.phtml?event=2102250
>>>
>>>and i bet very few here even know that due largely in part to your modesty
>>>i imagine that if other's  were that strong ,somehow,someway,they would manage
>>>to mention it on every other post
>>>
>>>totally different from this Spleen character..oops..   i meant... Steen
>>
>>
>> That's right - A. Spleen called himself a patzer in chess. But why this
>> making fun of names?
>
>I agree one shouldn't, but as to why he brought those flames on himself, it no
>doubt is his fault due to the quite cocky comments he made in his posts, such
>as:
>
>----------------------------------
>"more RAM than you would imagine"
>
>"Fruit 2.2.x is the easiest top engine to beat for a few years.
>
>Against F9, S9, my score (playing them under strictest conditions) is poorer
>than 50%, but I am working these upwards.
>
>But against Fruit 2.2.x (trial version), my score is now almost 80%, which is
>crushing.
>
>And I never use the non-chessic methods shown in your loss above.
>
>I win by squeezing it hard and not letting go and without allowing counterplay
>(as best I can).  This technique does not work at all reliably against F9 and S9
>because (as a "patzer", of course!) I am not perfect at squeezing hard without
>letting go and banning counterplay."
>----------------------------------
>
>Since I'm sure IMs and GMs aren't trying to beat the engines in a tactical
>slugfest, the last paragraph quoted above suggests he plays more competently
>than they, and at 3min blitz no less.
>
>BTW, I looked for the posts where he supposedly repeatedly calls himself a
>patzer, and couldn't find it. At best he says "we are all patzers" at one point.
>I may have missed it though, as I don't feel like reading every single one of
>this guy's stuff.
>
>As to more inflammable material, suggesting he does NOT regard himself a patzer:
>
>----------------------------------
>"the game is certainly no showcase for my abilities. So I cannot be again
>accused by the trolls of boasting or whatever."
>
>(the quote may seem odd due to the disclaimer, but talking about one's
>'abilities' is not an exercise in humility)
>
>"Below is the whole game, but please scroll down for some light illustrated
>commentary, aimed at the 1500-rated player.  As every one of my chessic
>_critics_ on this board have demonstrated no more understanding than that of a
>1500-player (if anything, I am being a little too generous here)"
>-----------------------------------
>
>In fact, the fellow is anything but humble. Just commenting.
>
>                                       Albert


 Humble or not - I had no problems with his language or attitude. In fact I
 smiled a bit when reading his posts. Furthermore I think he had some
 interesting points that seem to have vanished in the flames. F.e. the one
 about Fruit being more "friendly" or "passive" in games vs humans
 [i.e. Mr Steen] - than Fritz/Shredder (I think he mentioned those) - thus
 causing humans [i.e. Mr Steen] less problems in the games. It just might be
 worth investigating. Don't recall having seen so many serious games Fruit/Toga
 vs humans though.

 /S



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