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Subject: Re: Shredder wins in Graz after controversy

Author: Steffen Jakob

Date: 07:34:40 12/09/03

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Hi Uli!

On December 09, 2003 at 10:27:19, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:

>On December 09, 2003 at 10:16:30, José Carlos wrote:
>
>>On December 09, 2003 at 10:09:33, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>
>>>On December 09, 2003 at 10:05:05, K. Burcham wrote:
>>>
>>>>GCP, are you saying that the program Jonny, and the operator of Jonny did not
>>>>know about the repetition until informed by Mr. Z?
>>>>are you saying that the program Jonny also could not detect the position had
>>>>been played for the third time?
>>>
>>>Mr Zwanzer = Jonny programmer = Jonny operator
>>>
>>>Jonny did not know that a 3 fold repetition is a draw.
>>>
>>>--
>>>GCP
>>
>>  The software playing under the name Jonny did know. If what the GUI says is
>>ignored then don't let Jonny play under that GUI. Don't keep repeating that
>>nonsense about the engine vs the GUI. One player, one playing unit, that's it.
>
>I think that combining a private engine with a commercial GUI on occasions like
>this is very debatable.
>It was a big case that one of the programs was suspected to use source code of
>another one. Why should use of foreign code in binary form be acceptable ?

Although I usually work with xbard under Linux I also used the Fritz GUI in
Graz. The reason was that xboard does not support the time control which was
used in Graz (remaining time 30 minutes). Of course one could do it with
xboard/winboard by overruling the commands from the GUI (actually Thomas Mayer
did it). But on the other hand I don´t think that using the Fritz GUI gave me an
advantage (I didnt use book learning e.g. and disabled the tablebase usage of
the GUI). If you say that it should forbidden to use foreign code in binary form
like this, then why do you only mention commercial GUIs? Why would you allow
e.g. winboard?

Greetings,
Steffen.



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