Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 01:59:08 09/05/05
Go up one level in this thread
On September 04, 2005 at 18:34:50, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >You should worry instead about the monopoly of chessbase in Europe. People should have worried about chessbase monopol in the 80ties and 90ties when the race was not over. many did. only we were not capable to break the frontier of CSS propaganda and Chessbase both using the same people bringing the right propaganda in place for their own programs. many tried. Marty Hirsch Ed Schröder You tried Lokasoft ... some made deals with Chessbase and also sold their own stuff (stefan). In the years BEFORE chessbase went powerful we had nearly the same problems with H+G and the Mephisto Computers beeing pushed and supported in a monopoly way. it is always the same: people involved in a business bring articles about the products into magazins/newspapers, write articles in internet or make a hype in newsgroups . and later the people find out the product is not as good. this has happened how often ?? Today dedicated chess computer companies live in poverty. they rarely sell something important. their machines are too slow, too weak and too expensive. novags star diamond beaten by palm + tiger/hiarcs/genius. Saiteks atlanta beaten by palm. H+G bancrott. Weiner finished. computerchess was dominated a long time by the same people. richard lang and ossi weiner. frans morsch and fritz tried to break them. then stefan dominated for a long time. and amir ban and shay came and they fought against each other. with the fall of the old monopolists, fresh wind came into the scene and new talented programmers, who had their own ideas managed to invade the rusty computerchess scene. suddenly new strong programs appeared out of nothing. ruffian was mainly the first. then came fruit, and it's style toga. now zappa. Chris Whittington once wrote: "When should we expect a major breakthrough in science ? When will a lone developer 'step through the looking-glass' ? Who will this developer be ? The answer to the above two questions is of course whenever the old, classical programmers say 'we've reached perfection, there is no way to improve'; when the old paradigm says 'there is only one way'; when all the developers produce roughly equal results." This - exactly this has happened IMO again. Suddenly, out of nothing, new strong programs appeared just in the moment the traditional programs had problems to make progress. we saw shredder leading the ssdf list and nobody believed there would be much more progress or new programs reaching shredder. BUT IT CAME DIFFERENT, so chris was right. and he is right concerning this text: "Who will be the developer ? =========================== To answer our third question - 'who will be the developer ?', it is necessary to look at the personality of the classical programmers and their hangers-on. These programmers are characterised by a failure to show their emotions (do they ever smile), fear (just watch them operating at tournaments), refusal to discuss how their programs work (just try talking to them) , aversion to taking risks. It has always surprised me that the 'top' programmers are not good chess players. The hangers-on only make a little money, they jealously support their chosen proteges, and viciously attack their opponents. The hangers-on know little, pretend to know much and are governed by fear and greed. Overall the impression is of a static, non-risk taking, hostile, World War I environment. The new paradigm will come from an unexpected quarter. From a developer with extrovert personality, accustomed to taking risks, a developer with chess knowledge, probably someone unpopular with the classical paradigm supporters, certainly unpopular with the hangers-on and computer chess entourage. This developer will have been and certainly will be furiously attacked by the classicists." I am looking forward to the new zappa and the new gui. i am happy because i have so many chessbase GUIs and they were all buggy and it was a pain in the ass to use them, but i had to, to get my shredder, my junior, my hiarcs running. The next program i want to see is fruit. ruffian fruit fruits clone toga spike zappa ... this will be a nice time !!
This page took 0.01 seconds to execute
Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700
Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.