Author: Sune Fischer
Date: 07:02:43 12/09/03
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On December 09, 2003 at 09:49:47, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >On December 09, 2003 at 09:25:55, Sune Fischer wrote: > >>I think the logic is quite clear, Jonny lost on purpose because he didn't feel >>Shredder should lose the WCCC due to a silly bug: >> >>"Apparently the Shredder interface contained a bug which allowed it to repeat >>postitions in a totally winning position. The program Jonny had seen this and >>claimed the draw (while displaying a 0.00 score). But as Johannes Zwanzger >later said on the Playchess.com server: "I did not want to draw the game in >>this way against Stefan, just because his program has a bug." So he had simply >>executed the move on the board, entered Shredder's reply and continued with >>the game." >> >>So basicly "Jonny" (the engine) saw Shredder had bugged out and instantly >>punished it by going for the repetition. > >Your version of the facts is wrong on several accounts: > >1) The bug was not in the Shredder interface or if it was, that wasn't >critical since it's the engine that repeated the position, not the interface. I just quoted that from chessbase (from the link posted), I suspect it was the engine also. If it can somehow be documented it was in fact the interface, maybe that would change things since Shredder would technicly be innocient. >2) The engine Jonny had not claimed a draw (it didn't know about 3 fold >repetition), only the ChessBase GUI that Mr. Zwanzger was using informed >that the position was repeated 3 times. It had a draw score and played the drawing moves, so its intention was clear. The engine wanted the draw and the operator didn't allow it, that's the way I see it. Maybe the reason for the engine not claiming the repetition itself is because it's playing in a GUI that does it for it. Imagine the dilemma poor Jonny must have faced here, I'm glad it wasn't me that had to choose between being a good sport and grabbing an extra half point. I think the rules should protect operators in the future so they don't feel obligated to throw the game in this manner. my 0.02, -S. >-- >GCP
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