Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 03:25:58 02/20/05
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On February 20, 2005 at 06:02:25, Uri Blass wrote: >On February 20, 2005 at 04:40:19, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >>On February 19, 2005 at 07:43:49, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On February 17, 2005 at 14:03:30, Tord Romstad wrote: >> >>Hi Vincent, >> >>I hope everything is well with you. I guess you'll meet Stefan at Paderborn. >> >>> >>>Don't do idiot experiments that just support the idiocy you invented yourself. >>> >>>IF you have an engine rated 3000 in strength THEN it will play virtually achieve >>>2300 in the important games instead of 3000 when NOT using a book. So the book >>>delivers 700 rating points. >> >>This is a very interesting statement. >>I agree with you and I know that the stronger an engine is the best it will get >>from a good opening book, but I never estimated how much it would get reaching >>3000 in strenght. >> >>> >>>Experiments with some idiot engine that is itself rated what is it, 2200, >>>will be useless of course. >>> >>>Some years ago when engines were 2200 level it was the Mchess-Necchi team who >>>said a book was worth 300, and he meant that obviously in the same way as i mean >>>the 700 points at real high level. >> >>Yes, you are correct. >> >>> >>>The weakest link is what counts. >>> >>>I don't care for your engine in that respect, let alone such stupid experiment. >>> >>>Take a strong engine from which you feel it is the best engine in the world. >>>Show up without book in important events. World champ will be the best test. >>> >>>THEN calculate after a 100 years of doing that, what the odds were you won that >>>event. You will see it's 0%. >> >>Yes, here we agree too. >> >>Sandro > >Suppose for the discussion that stefan find a way to improve the engine by 200 >elo in one year based on rating from the predefined positions that it was not >tuned specifically for them(correct me if I am wrong but you probably expect it >to happen in less than 10 years but not in one year). Of course Stefan will not be able to improve the engine by 200 points; it is unlike to happen and there is no need as we are leading the SSDF list and always playing to win the WCCC title, I mean if we do not win we get 2nd place. Last year however we have been handicapped by a bad bug... > >Do you think that it also had no chance to win world championship without book >in 2006? No, without a strong opening book, no matter how strong is your engine there are no chances to win the WCCC. Maybe 0% is too conservative; better to say 0.000000001% chances >If not then the chances to win world championship is more than 0% in case that >you have an engine that is strong enough. Well, the point is to win, so instead of 0.000000001% chances it is better to use one book that should raise these up to 50%...don't you agree? > >Uri Sandro
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