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Subject: Re: FRC_TheBaron_101 Vs Fritz8 (Castling vs Not Castling rules)

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 06:21:35 06/24/03

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On June 24, 2003 at 08:30:27, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On June 24, 2003 at 06:54:40, Günther Simon wrote:
>
>>On June 23, 2003 at 19:13:22, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On June 23, 2003 at 19:08:28, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>For this game I used an Athlon 1.2 GHz for FRC_TheBaron and a Celeron 433 MHz
>>>>for Fritz 8.0.0.8. After FRC_TheBaron castled in move 14.0-0-0 Queen side Fritz8
>>>>did NOT wanted to continued, therefore I set Up the position from that move on
>>>>to allow Fritz8 to continue the game, and the game was won on the endgame stage.
>>
>>IMO this is ridiculous, Fritz 8 just had _lost_ ,as he refused to play on,
>>because he even did not know the rules of the game he was playing...
>>(This are the rules for all games BTW, if you cannot react to a regular
>>move, you lose, period.)
>
>Well you are correct about that, strictly speaking.
>But since Fritz doesn't know the rules we have to cut it some slack, just to get
>a feel for its potential.
>
>I do think this match is half way pointless for another reason though.
>If Fritz had lost, it would have been because "Fritz was playing a different
>game", so it's like a no-win situation for The Baron.
>
>>I cannot understand why some people completely lost their sense of logic
>>regarding FRC, Shuffle Chess and Normal Chess.
>>Why they cannot recognize, that they are simply playing different games,
>>with different rules??
>
>I think the problem is this:
>The FRC championship is like the world championship, the Chess championship is
>like the European championship. Because FRC includes chess, just like the World
>includes Europe. :)

It is easy to define a game that includes FRC and after you do it you can
develop a program for this game and call it the world champion.

One possibility is to decide that you choose 3 random pieces in the last rank
that you can castle with them(the case when the pieces are king and rooks is
only one private case of many cases).

I do not accept it.

I think that you need minimal number of participants to consider some tournament
as a world championship.

If there are only 3 or 4 engines that implement FRC then I cannot take the world
championship seriously.

Uri



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